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I knew that healthcare spending and results in the US were worse than in various European countries...

But I had no idea they were this bad.

The US spends more than 3 times as much as Italy on healthcare, but still has an average life expectancy that is four years lower.

If you allow for "statistical" deaths, it becomes clear that the health insurance and for-profit healthcare industries in the United States are killing tens of thousands a year and the only consequence they face is... increased profits.

With #UnitedHealthcare one of the major beneficiaries of this profiting off death
Complex chart showing life expectancy against per-capita health care spending for Italy, Japan, France, Canada, Germany, the United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland), and the United States. The US is a clear, striking outlier.
#unitedhealthcare
yianiris
It would have been even more interesting to include #Cuba to chart, with a fraction of per/capita cost of Italy and even better health report than the US for 3 decades now.

Also, the #EU chosen countries displayed are among the worse performers, while the recent years' #UK demolition of #NHS can be seen by a sharp right turn.

The difference between socialized health system and state insurance is far more significant.

@nwchapman
#uk #eu #nhs #Cuba @(gobsmacked)
yianiris
If there is a great achievement by western Europe in the 20th century it would have been the NHS. But 40 years of intentional demolition of it to float neoliberal illusions of privatized health care may result in decline in service.

In what way, other than your personal lingual bias, is Australia more comparable to the US than Scandinavian countries?

Sci.lit. on health systems are flooded by the Scandinavian examples.

@nwchapman

Read NIH study of US/UK by Derek G. Gill
@(gobsmacked)
ErnstGucker
I fear the Scandinavian lifestyle is too socialist for the US.
People there feel more like a community and society is considered great and urgent.

When I put this to perspective to the US, I see more egoism and capitalism.

That makes it difficult to compare.
yianiris
Some decades back in academic debates projecting the Scandinavian "ideal" as an example, yours truly was commenting that it may be more comfortable for industrialists to convert Europe to what the US is than for the US to implement socialized anything. Even though health insurance was born in Baltimore, MD in the 40s (Bethlehem Steel/Kaiser).

It was labor unions in the US that rejected publicly funded health insurance on the fear that the state controlled their lives

@ErnstGucker @nwchapman
@(gobsmacked) @ErnstGucker
yianiris
National Socialism (NaZi) is about the only thing in growth in Europe, the NHS is replaced by private health care, populism and #islamophobia is replacing rationalism, and feeding the ww3 front to ensure nat.gas/grain flows is dominating political life.

We are doomed and there is no place to hide, we know of very little left to do to avert this global social catastrophe capitalism has been rushing us to.

@ErnstGucker @nwchapman
#islamophobia @(gobsmacked) @ErnstGucker
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