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... here in Europe we see these rich young people driving on the roads, puffing away in their latest model Porsche, Lexus, Mercedes, BMW SUVs, of course the latest types, who sit in us are all in their 20s and 30s. They are loud, rude, behave badly, and are not very popular among the local residents. You can find them everywhere in the best beach resorts in the Adriatic, Italy, Spain ! At the same time, you can be sure, no one will ever deliver a military draft to them, I’m sure they have at least two passports !
Based on Washington’s Ukraine shenanigans, it’s been cruisin’ for a bruisin’ for years now.
Absolutely right!
Any “ally” who trusts the US after Vietnam and Afghanistan is credulous. We told the marsh Arabs in Iraq to rebel against Saddam and then stood by while they were slaughtered. The Ukrainians were stupid to trust America to defend them against the Russians. We’re on the other side of the planet, for God’s sake. We don’t give a shit about the Ukraine. It’s just a way to “weaken Russia”. Or inadvertently strengthen it, as it turns out. We also don’t care about Germany or the UK. Everything is transactional and transitory. Defense alliances are just words on paper – like our constitution.
This just makes no sense to put all those young men to die. Knowing they have no chance. I blame Victoria Nuland for this. She caused the escalation between Ukraine and Russia. Without that escalation, Ukraine, to my opinion, would have developed their independent country, similar way, still co-operating with Russians as former socialist regimes in Baltic regions. Now even THAT peaceful coexistence is gone. She also destroyed the long term peace between Finland and Russia.
For Russia the current conflict is existential and Ukraine now feels it has nothing left to lose in bringing the whole house down with it. For the west it is no longer an opportunity to destroy Russia, not without turning its own major centres to rubble in the process.
Russia is not going to be suckered into another duplicitous western deal so the real issue for those with longer sights, is how to disarm the nutty baltic states (if not offload them altogether in which cause dumping Polish troops onto the current fire was a ‘go-to’ that met with surprise resistance!). Western management of this conflict does not care about about Ukraine any more- it has served its purpose such as it ever was- and would be content for Russia to swallow it up and then have to digest this problem….. given the alternative is nothing more than a vast killing field with the horrendous drain on western resources and on going risk of accidental escalation.
Ukrainian value, including the value of the Black Sea ports, is already gone.
The goal was always kill as many Slavs as possible on both sides… Every dead Slav is a win for the puppet masters in the Deep State … their success is staggering from both a genocidal and financial standpoint. The losers are the population who buy in or are forced to buy into the us vs them propaganda. Russia is patient and will grind this out until Ukraine collapses and with it potentially NATO and the entirety of Clown World west. Unfortunately, the cost of the Slavic tribe brother war will continue to be immense
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