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I’ve been confused at why people keep saying that H-1B workers are low wage workers, because that hasn’t been my experience, but the reality is people are talking about the two extremes of the program and not knowing about the other side of it.

1. Outsourcing companies take maybe 4 out of 10 H-1B visas. These cos negotiate onshore outsourcing to companies. They send lower paid workers here and churn through them. Most people think only of this scenario.

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2. The rest of the H-1B visas are largely people working tech or finance jobs at all kinds of companies. Not always big tech, but big tech are the most likely to sponsor. In my experience, they’re the only ones who don’t even ask your immigration status until they’re sure you’re the right person for the job. Then if you happen to need immigration help, they’ll provide it.
There’s a lot of FUD about this and most people don’t understand what it means. A lot of H-1B salary info is publicly available online. The posted wages are not the max wages, they mean ‘Meta got this visa for this person with this job title and they’ll be paid at least $150K’ or whatever. It doesn’t matter if it’s 200K or 400, they have to meet the prevailing wage.

These are not the wage slaves you’re talking about. Other aspects of it are not great, but the wage part (at least in SF) isn’t.
There is ongoing work to try to reduce the ability of outsourcing companies to get the no of visas they do. The recent H-1B rule, for example. They’re trying to make distinctions between the 2 groups. The first group do get suppressed wages, and don’t tend to go on to become permanent residents or citizens, as they’re treated so poorly.

The latter group really do tend to be exceptional technical talent.
For many international students who want to stay on in the U.S., the H-1B is also the only program (after OPT) available to most people unless they’re from Canada, Australia, Singapore and Chile. Those countries have their own ‘special visas’. This is the only ‘skilled worker’ visa available for most people. There is a 1 in 4 chance of getting it, even if you get the job offer. The requirements are arduous. Candidates and employers don’t take this lightly.
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When companies plan to hire a H-1B, they have to post a document in the office. It says ‘we plan to hire this person. This is their name. This is the job title. We plan to pay them $X. Any objections, contact DOL.’

They do this with every single H-1B. Only after a period of posting, can they advance to the next step. People keep acting as if all of this is some dark surprise, but they just truly don’t understand immigration processes.
So it doesn’t matter if you’re a Swedish software engineer or an Indian backend engineer. The H-1B is the category that most people come on.

I think many people in their heads have only Indian software engineers as H-1Bs, but it’s much more diverse than that. There are also researchers and scientists. You need a bachelor’s degree, and the jobs that hire for that require a bachelor’s degree, with limited exceptions.
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More experienced people can probably come on other visas, like O-1s and EB-1s or 2s, but restricting the H-1B also severely restricts the international talent that is already here and graduating from U.S. universities that then wants to stay on after their OPT.

Many countries have started to make it difficult for foreign students to stay on after graduating from their schools. I think doing the same here will be a big mistake.
I know some people here who keep spreading the rumor that H-1Bs are low wage workers wont be swayed even if they see this: https://h1bapp.com/h1b-sponsors/apple-inc (you can search any company)

But then I also feel they’ll say well those foreigners shouldn’t be paid so much

So I’ll just keep saying, you all don’t know anything about immigration