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Could our government be any shitter? I mean - really?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/29/uk-reportedly-planning-electric-car-loan-subsidies-to-push-sales

In what way are they not Tories? Someone? Anyone?

#IAmSoFuckingTiredOfTheseWankers
#iamsofuckingtiredofthesewankers
MarjorieR
indeed, this is the sector that is being hauled through the courts for screwing drivers who used their overpriced loan products.
What proportion of the subsidy would actually get though to the loan recipients?

If you want to subsidise electric vehicles why not do so directly, and only on smaller, less environmentally destrictive electric vehicles.
JimmyB (he/him)
Yes - for eg. But why not just take the cash and invest in green public transport? As has been pointed out so many times:

1. EVs are still deeply polluting; and
2. EVs won't save the planet. They will save the car industry tho.

EV cars perpetuate the individualism which is killing us...
MarjorieR
not disagreeing at all. Let them make EV busses!
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JimmyB (he/him)
Went to an excellent talk last year (Politics and Pints) where a fella set out how and why we should stop subsidising EV cars locally, start subsidising EV bikes, scooters, buses, change the roads to prioritise such, and to make owning a car both painful and unnecessary.

Thought it was excellent. And I own a car and a motorbike 😀

It's a project that in #Jersey we really could actually do. But won't. Because individualism trumps all.
#jersey
Louane CooIey
a few years ago a coalition of bike advocacy groups I was involved in convinced the state legislature to set aside part of the EV incentive money to go toward e-bikes. Only had enough funds for 500 grants which took another two years to finally get dispersed and were snapped up in about 30 min once program finally opened. All set aside for people living in “distressed communities”. The bike groups organized on Twit and FB, but dispersed now.
JimmyB (he/him)
we had a scheme to provide subsidies for EV cars that - get this - got bigger as the cars got more expensive.

The scheme to subsidise e-bikes was massively under funded and over subscribed. And then scrapped.

Shit politicians: how lovely they are 😀
Louane CooIey
Oh thats very American!

Politicians cannot wrap their heads around anyone taking public transit on purpose or biking when you could take a car. We organized a big bike day at the capital and got them out riding. Most had never been on an ebike before. The two strongest advocates have since left the legislature so more outreach is definitely needed.

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JimmyB (he/him)
I’m sitting on a tram in #Zurich right now having popped across town at lunch time to get something. The app on my phone has a slider to turn travel on and off - and will calc the cheapest fare end of day - shows me all the connections possible to get to where I want to go.

Making it absolutely simple and obvious to go by public transport. As it should be!
#zurich
Louane CooIey
the desire is there. The program was built and had good guidelines. But there hasn’t been any push to allocate more funds. Will have to reach out and see if there is any organizing on this again.

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Artists Garden
What gets me is this constant growth fetish.
We can only make improvements if we change the way in which we consume and how we conduct our lives.
JimmyB (he/him)
I agree. We need to learn - I'm trying - to live with less, to consume less. The reality is: income is directly correlated with carbon footprint. Once we understand that the solutions look simple in theory, impossible in practice.
Artists Garden
I think we understand it and it is well known. We just choose to put personal, short-term monetary gains before looking after our home, a.k.a. planet earth.
It seems to me that everybody is saying it's okay to destroy everything and die in the process as long as we die rich.

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JimmyB (he/him)
Yes - something like that. And attempting to fix it - in any small way - gets some serious heat.

And obviously our bought politicians are not going to do anything about it.

It's galling.
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