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I just posted a question - who owns #Bluesky? - to my fellow Marxists (who for some reason are all on bsky) with a link to this post by @mastodonmigration. I only have 50 followers so I made sure to tag one person I would expect to respond. The post got zero interactions, which surprised me. Is it possible that Bluesky shadow bans this kind of talk? (No snarky comments. I find them boring) https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/113918378013302932

Mastodon Migration (@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)

So, in our ongoing investigation into... Who Actually Owns Bluesky? ...there is a new mystery to solve. Three weeks ago the tech press was reporting #Bluesky was about to close a new funding round led by Bain Capital which would value it at $700M.
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Doug Webb
don't know, but it seems like the culture of engagement is different on bluesky, seems more like content-creator stars and boosting... Was looking at the difference of the Greenpeace masto and bluesky accounts today and it seemed that way.

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malte
This is interesting. I was wondering whether it might be a cultural thing too. We won't know for sure, but I'm curious about what you noticed when you compared the two. How are the interactions different?
malte
I'm also curious because it might give a clue to another "mystery question" which is - why are so many Marxists on Bluesky? The very people who specialize in analyzing property relations, technology and modes of production. When given a choice between communication autonomy and a VC funded company, they choose the later. It boggles my mind and I wonder if the culture of stardom and boosting you mention actually tells us something about the contemporary culture of marxism.
Doug Webb
compare:
https://mastodon.social/@greenpeace/114115752856301245

and

https://bsky.app/profile/greenpeace.org/post/3ljpmvop6nk2i

Boosts and favorites one order of magnitude greater on mastodon, plus lots of comments vs none.

(Very small, but quite dramatic example. I have some friends having a good time on Bluesky, apparently a lot of climate scientists still there)

Greenpeace International (@greenpeace@mastodon.social)

Attached: 1 image Billionaires emit more carbon pollution in 90 minutes than the average person does in a lifetime “The super-rich are treating our planet like their personal playground, setting it ablaze for pleasure and profit.
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Doug Webb
as for Marxists:

Self-defining Marxists, or people for whom Marx is their dominant theorist, often seem to be stuck in time I have the feeling. From my admittedly shallow understanding of Marx, much of it has been somehow integrated into many movements by now.

Most Marxists I've met don't even really seem to care about FOSS for example.
malte
Yes, you won't find many popular movements that don't build in some part on the legacy of Marxian thinking. Many political movements that continue to inspire me and that I've been part of have been influenced by Marx. I have been too. It boggles me why the people that know this stuff the most seem to be so out of touch with the field of social networks and communication technology. Especially today when this "mode of production" plays such a significant role
Doug Webb
right. I guess those of us on fedi understand the fundamental difference and are willing to deal with the rough edges and reduced network.

I guess we need to work on all fronts: improving technical literacy/understanding, improving protocol and clients and bringing people over.
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