@Bruce Mirken @Helen Branswell The only advantage is the vaccine rollout will be rapid. We dont have to wait to pass clinical trials. So we will have a hugs death spike and then quick drop, unlike with COVID
If he tries that, maybe he will refuse the vaccine himself, get it, and die from it.
The other question is will scum like that not promote the vaccine and not offer it in governmental facilities(notable threat to their own military as well as prisoners), or will they attempt to ban it or drive up the price? Here in FL, state health officials drank the Kool-aid and publicly oppose covid vaccination but have made no attempt to ban it outright from private vendors. You don't need permission from the FL Dept of heath to get a covid shot in Florida.
oh dear,though people in the UK arent warned not to touch or go close to sick looking wild birds ,which are the main carriers of H5N1 ,chickens catch it from wild birds ,yet goverments dont warn people that they are at risk.Here in the UK foxes,otters and seals have also begun dying from it and its less fatal in mammals than birds so theres probably a lot wandering around infected .
If we as a species stopped eating birds, this could be our last go-around with flus that originated in birds. This one has already adapted to too many other animals but future bird flus would have far less exposure to mammals. The only real route to humans would be bird->domestic cat->human and this would lead to too few exposures to let natural selection re-engineer the virus to spread efficiently in humans.
I am sorry but thats not strictly true though poultry workers catch it and your right I am pretty sure theres workers walking around with h5n1 and thats likely to be how it spreads ,but wild birds are the carriers and they spread it to other species without farms being involved at all , seals have caught H5N1,large numbers have died .Otters have also started to become infected neither have contact with humans.(I dont eat poultry of any kind or shop bought eggs )
Exposure of humans directly to wild birds exists but on nowhere near the scale of exposure to farm-raised birds. Frequent, common exposures drive up the risk of co-infection with a bird and a human flu. When both viruses infect the same cell, reassortment (as though viruses could mate) can occur. This will produce a wide variety of hybrid strains, only one of which needs to be a dangerous pandemic strain.
It is believed that all the current (omicron-based) covid strains arose from just such a mix of covid with a cold virus, some of which are also coronaviruses thus compatable.
In the wild, predators eat birds, then scavengers eat both birds and dead predators. That's nature's version of the chicken industry so far as this goes, but the endpoints have less interaction with humans that farm raised birds do. Possibly the most dangerous route would be if birds hunted by humans get infected in large numbers.
Otters by the way eat birds, and so do seals. The risk of bird flu to them thus models risk to human communities that eat a lot of hunted birds. If people didn't eat birds at all (even just during times of known risk), that risk too is greatly reduced.
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The other question is will scum like that not promote the vaccine and not offer it in governmental facilities(notable threat to their own military as well as prisoners), or will they attempt to ban it or drive up the price? Here in FL, state health officials drank the Kool-aid and publicly oppose covid vaccination but have made no attempt to ban it outright from private vendors. You don't need permission from the FL Dept of heath to get a covid shot in Florida.
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It is believed that all the current (omicron-based) covid strains arose from just such a mix of covid with a cold virus, some of which are also coronaviruses thus compatable.
In the wild, predators eat birds, then scavengers eat both birds and dead predators. That's nature's version of the chicken industry so far as this goes, but the endpoints have less interaction with humans that farm raised birds do. Possibly the most dangerous route would be if birds hunted by humans get infected in large numbers.
Otters by the way eat birds, and so do seals. The risk of bird flu to them thus models risk to human communities that eat a lot of hunted birds. If people didn't eat birds at all (even just during times of known risk), that risk too is greatly reduced.