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Isn't it poetic and ironic that out of all possible time lines we are in one where #securejoin #openpgp protocols on top of the existing #email protocols offer the arguably most solidly scaling, useable, world-wide federated end-to-end encrypted messaging reality, safe against compromised #mitm servers? Hundreds of billions spend to create "the email successor" and here we are in 2025 .... #interoperable #email and #cryptography as the tortoise looking at Achilles through the back mirror :)
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#openpgp #email #cryptography #securejoin #interoperable #mitm
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Michel Sardon 🎸
talking about the future of email : is there any project of a thunderbird extension for delta chat ?
Delta Chat
not that we know off. As far as we know thunderbirds current extension model does not allow even an #autocrypt compliant plugin let alone all the rest that delta offers. #enigmail used to offer full autocrypt support but when thunderbird changed the plugin model and integrated openpgp into thunderbird they went back to the old idea of "users have to consciously manage their encryption keys" ... An unfortunate old tradition. We aim for modern usable security like signal delivers.
#autocrypt #enigmail
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Martin Schmitt #NochNieCDU
Just one remark while I don't think Thunderbird needs a Delta Extension: I have tested Autocrypt between Delta and Thunderbird and it does work. It's why I so passionately advise against changing the mail address in-place in a Delta profile. 😬 https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/115.7.0/releasenotes/

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Thunderbird is a free email application that’s easy to set up and customize - and it’s loaded with great features!
Thunderbird
Delta Chat
ah, well, Autocrypt defines the UId as decorative https://docs.autocrypt.org/level1.html#id75 and enigmail impelemnted it that way at the time.
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Michel Sardon 🎸
you mean, you advice is to used a classic e-mail address that works better with thunderbird ?
Delta Chat
out general advise for testing out delta is to use a default chatmail profile and then when this is satisfying to configure another profile with an existing address and also see about interactions with existing other mail apps or webmail. Starting with such a mixed setup might lead to troubles before any fun even starts :)
Michel Sardon 🎸
that makes sense, and I have done that... even if i did not succeed with using it on the desktop app (with the qrcode thing..). Anyway, it seems as well a good idea to make it easy for users of thunderbird which are a massive group of users...
Delta Chat
If you have a laptop and a phone, it usually helps to create a hotspot on a phone and connect laptop to the hotspot, then do a second device setup. This way you don't need to deal with your Wi-Fi router and connect devices directly.
sirjofri
Though I had absolutely no problems using Delta chat on my own mail server that certainly has no advanced chatmail functionality
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@Michel Sardon 🎸 @Martin Schmitt #NochNieCDU
Delta Chat
maybe it's more that we recommend a dedicated chat profile but even mixed usage works for some people. It's just not for newcomers to suggest them first to use their existing big-corp email account. Chatmail servers forget, big corp ones track and train on things etc. own mail servers are a totally valid option and such folks usually employ the perseverance to figure things out nicely.
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