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#Money ≠ #capitalism - despite what the capitalists may want you to think.

The idea that #commerce is inherently evil is also wrong.

#Advertisement and #marketing are inherently evil, of course.

I don't think people understand the difference between all of these.

When it comes to some people on the #fediverse, they'd rather exclude grassroots actors who need revenue to - y'know, LIVE - in order to spite the big boys.

Let me tell you this: you are not helping. You enable the bad guys.
#fediverse #capitalism #commerce #money #marketing #advertisement
JimmyB (he/him)
but how are they excluded? Many small players post their wares here and are welcomed…
Thor A. Hopland
my original post, the one you commented on first, speaks of #UX. Most people want things to work OOB, most notably: the common users.

A content creator relies on platforms to basically feed a revenue stream directly from the platform. It may sound manipulative, but it's a matter of ease of use - i.e barrier to entry.

Sure, sharing your kofi or your Patreon, even your Venmo might help a little, but psychologically speaking even the slightest barrier to entry is a blocker for most.
#UX
Thor A. Hopland
so again, they'll rely on the big boys because of obstinate ideas about what people want or don't want.

We know how the human mind works and a lot of the times, especially in modern times, people will rather avoid anything too difficult or stressful - which because of conditioning also means opening up a new tab.

It's therefore our duty to bring these people over to the fediverse to sort of "save them from themselves".
JimmyB (he/him)
I just do not agree. I really have given up trying to save anyone. I mean - I don't mind if others have that project but it isn't for me. I find it an exercise in futility and depression - and I then have to deal with people who I frequently find I dislike intensely

And that is because of how little so many people care about the profound suffering of those around them. That is a pretty unattractive characteristic for me

So here we have a place that works pretty well for me as it is
Thor A. Hopland
and again, WE CAN DO IT ETHICALLY HERE.

Zuck, Musk, Brzos, TikTok, etc do not have good intentions and don't care about people.

They will continue to utilize certain methods to coax interaction out of people.

One of these things is making things super easy. It's actually kind of a problem, but suffice to say people have been conditioned.
Thor A. Hopland
And then there's dark design patterns. Some may say direct monetization is a dark design pattern, but then they are showing that they don't understand what dark design patterns actually do.

Ease of use coupled with barrier to exit is a dark design pattern for instance. We could avoid all that mess entirely.

But pretending that we can ignore the conditioning done to the masses through these patterns is kind of ignorant and willfully negligent.
JimmyB (he/him)
I'll take willfully negligent. I really don't have the energy to engage in what I see to be an utterly futile fight in this arena.

I'm delighted not to have a zillion people selling stuff aggressively here. I'm delighted not to have my payments data being routinely harvested here.

It's a question of where we put our energy and priorities.
Thor A. Hopland
the content creator will go where the user is and where the barrier to entry for monetization is low. This is because, and I cannot stress this enough; running a small business with employees (writers, editors, what have you) requires direct revenue streams from direct interaction.

I could probably go to university, study psychology and hammer out a dissertation about all this, but suffice to say "plz click link" is not effective and most likely leads people back to the oligarchs.
Thor A. Hopland
final note: decentralization of monetization is of paramount importance to defeat Silicon Valley. We live in a world where people need money to grow, thrive and develop.

Your glib take and simple view point shows me that people are blissfully unaware of the issue at hand.

You can't just decentralize the power, workout decentralizing the money. Keep all that centralized, and we end up in the oligarchy problem we have now.

We should disable oligarchy, not enable it.
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JimmyB (he/him)
"decentralization of monetization is of paramount importance to defeat Silicon Valley"

I'd love to see it. But not here - explicitly because of how it would change. And - I work in the financial world - I also know that there is not a single chance that those who control payments today are going to allow anything other than crypto to escape them, and that's only because they were sleeping when crypto came in.

Crypto is an Orwellian nightmare so don't want that either.
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