If those who aren't happy with the outcome of the General Election in July are now demanding another one.
Then politely can all of us who voted #Remain in the #Brexit vote, signed a petition which has 6 million signatures asking for another referendum, now have another referendum to undo the stupidity of Brexit!
Or is that one vote we aren't allowed to undo! Plus should they remember their own slogan - 'will of the people!'
Then politely can all of us who voted #Remain in the #Brexit vote, signed a petition which has 6 million signatures asking for another referendum, now have another referendum to undo the stupidity of Brexit!
Or is that one vote we aren't allowed to undo! Plus should they remember their own slogan - 'will of the people!'
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However....
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Starmer's skeletons are going to be #genocide and the ghosts of #Gaza
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Otherwise, we're in Daily Mail territory.
The 'he didn't persuade people so he's no good, but Starmer did so he's right' hasn't improved as an argument from when the Blairites first distributed it to be picked up and repeated ad nauseam.
The resources put into stopping Corbyn were extraordinary - but effective.
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9,708,716
Votes for Corbyn's Labour in 2019:
10,269,051
Given that Corbyn got half a million more votes than Starmer, I don't think "people didn't believe in him" was the issue. The biggest reason Labour won this year was because the Tories lost votes harder than they did.
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It's quite simple.
The resources spent on lying about JC and smearing him daily in the MSM (Guardian included) were unprecedented.
The smears have continued today on this thread. It's absolutely disgusting.
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Links to the IRA? Facilitated the peace process.
Laughing at a remembrance service? Doctored photo.
Antisemitic? Regular guest with Jewish groups, but failed to deal with a subtle dog whistle well.
Not electable? Self-fulfilling propaganda.
Extreme policies? When separated from the person, they were very popular.
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I think we all get how FPTP works and it's inadequacies.
Some of us understand quite how treachourously the PLP dealt with JC.
And some of us remember the enormous forces mobilised against him - the lies, the money, the threats.
And yet you repeated the smears here, so that's going to get you some attention.
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JimmyB (he/him) •
So losing the vote to such people could be a mark of integrity. Winning it with Starmers' appalling lies, less so.
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Starmer was the only option to a truly hated gov, so kept quiet on his thatcherism.
Starmer is just another Tory. he defeated Sunak, but has not changed any policy in place.
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I don't think folks are aware or remember quite how much money was spent on smearing Corbyn. It was extraordinary - but deeply effective. The same lies that were paid to be published have been repeated on this thread all these years later.
Boris was a disaster of Labour's making.
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And at the heart that is what this is about, the top 10% want to protect their money, Corbyn threatened that, he HAD to go.
The worst of it is, all those 'antisemitism' warnings about Corbyns view on Israel, have been proven true. Israel is that evil genocidal dictatorship.
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I'd love to see some evidence for that.
He was involved in no negotiations. He was not party to the design.
He is - in his own words - a 70% supporter of the EU. He has, along with many on the left, a very reasonable concern about wage depression caused by capital flight across borders.
Tell us more about about this architecting.
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Estarriol, Cat owned Dragon •
And you know it.
He never stood alongside Banks, Farage and Johnson, he didn't have a bus with a lie on it.
In fact he campaigned for remain, because as he said, he might be personally ambivalent about the EU, the UK was better inside the EU than outside it. AN honest position.
You are repeating a deliberate lie and smear to clear the true architects, who I suspect from your stance, you voted with.
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If it is just the old lie I never know why that doesn’t make the op pause a moment and ask themselves why they are lying about a fundamentally good man
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Corbyn was the first polotician to say we must imvoke Art 50 immmediately after a narrow wi for Leave in the Ref. He refus2d to call out the und3mocratic nature of the ref campaign. He ordered his MPs to vote for the initial Art 50 bill without any checks and balances like a confirmation ref after the negotiations...
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What a selective analysis you've provided.
Well done.
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