Yeah, that one's a double-edged sword, I guess. We keep looking back at all these tales of wonder and heroism and think that "hero" = "role model", but most of the stories (esp. in Greek myth?) are cautionary tales about hubris, aren't they? You can be as clever and manipulative as you want, but if you mess with the natural order/gods, you're not gonna get back home for ten years.
sources vary, but - it's his idea to abandon Piloctetes when he is injured - he frames Palamedes for treason and has him executed while pretending to be his friend (because Palamedes is smarter than him, but also honest and liked) - he suggests they kill Hector's infant son in case he'd grow up and try to take revenge So... yeah
I could add more, but all of those are from various tragedies, i.e. much later than the Odyssey. And I think that those authors saddle Odysseus with having all the awful ideas because it makes no sense to have characters not known, as thinking much (ever, I mean, look at Achilles, ffs) do it. Feels lazy, but they were working with what the theatre going public could be expected to know.
this is what makes his story with Palamedes exciting. Palamedes is smart, and definitely a showoff, but an honest guy. Odysseus is smart, sneaky, and ruthless. The original Sherlock vs Moriarty
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You can be as clever and manipulative as you want, but if you mess with the natural order/gods, you're not gonna get back home for ten years.
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- it's his idea to abandon Piloctetes when he is injured
- he frames Palamedes for treason and has him executed while pretending to be his friend (because Palamedes is smarter than him, but also honest and liked)
- he suggests they kill Hector's infant son in case he'd grow up and try to take revenge
So... yeah
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Dr. Zalka Csenge Virág •
The original Sherlock vs Moriarty