## Fediverse the ultimate neoliberal social engineering experiment
https://diasporasocial.net/posts/4704211
#Fediverse #mastodon #marxism #anarchism #libertarian #Communism #neoliberalism #fascism #censorship #diaspora #friendica
https://diasporasocial.net/posts/4704211
#Fediverse #mastodon #marxism #anarchism #libertarian #Communism #neoliberalism #fascism #censorship #diaspora #friendica
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yianiris hat dies geteilt
Heretical_i •
🏁⚡Omar Two Tone⚡🏁:verified: •
yianiris •
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@heretical_i @omartwotone
Fediverse the ultimate neoliberal social engineering experiment
diaspora* social network🏁⚡Omar Two Tone⚡🏁:verified: •
I've experienced once the deletion of a post which was about vaccines a long time ago, it was from a claiming from a user of another instance I'm on. I get the point that in all servers there are rules by owners, some more permissive than others, the respect is the only and common one. also I've observed that many users here have leftist points of view in many topics, when was the US elections, mastodon was insoportable, but I know it's impossible all people have my way of thinking. even though I don't think it is a complete social engineering experiment because we have the choice of being an owner running our instance or changing to another one with the minimum premise of respect. I've not tried diaspora yet, but certainly I've considered other spaces like the social media "minds" which is also federated where I post even more sensitive things than here in mastodon.
yianiris •
Here we live like in a Chilean democracy, where they might agree with what you are saying but they can make you vanish anyway because they can.
@omartwotone @heretical_i
Heretical_i hat dies geteilt
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🏁⚡Omar Two Tone⚡🏁:verified: •
yianiris hat dies geteilt
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yianiris •
The intolerance of m-l Marxists to denounce and erase any "un-orthodox" views on their holly scripts (lemmies) interpretation is also a source of agony.
Then we have "anarchists" convinced on "label" level theories, communism=lenninism and enforce anti-communism.
Intolerance everywhere
@heretical_i @omartwotone
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@omartwotone
yianiris •
If the model worked we would see more servers and more people, what we see on stats is more servers going off the air than new ones. No attempt to organize and set rules beyond "private ownership".
@omartwotone @heretical_i
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@omartwotone
yianiris •
You are also making the assumption that servers going down at such high rate is because of experimentation. All I see is a steady decline, when all advocates keep saying get your own server
@heretical_i @omartwotone
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yianiris •
Because of what you explain, expression and communication in fediverse is under the boot of "individual ownership" and discretion. Skewed and distorted just as a pseudo democracy is.
HOW can there be a collective body/agreement to end this dictatorial rule of the "majority"
@heretical_i @omartwotone @luca
yianiris •
In other words, I am not talking about my problem (you are suggesting how to solve it), I am talking of a general collective problem we have.
@heretical_i @omartwotone @luca
yianiris •
#Fediverse may be a good step for something better, but discussion for the better should take place in #fediverse, not be banned, for the sake of defending #fediverse
@heretical_i @omartwotone
Heretical_i •
Preston Maness ☭ •
>Somehow, very few people find all this disturbing, and in contrast to social media owned and operated by large corporations, many progressive, democratic, liberal minded people think and act convinced that this is better. I have no clue what goes on in most corporate social media, long ago when I used twitter I don’t remember any post of mine being removed. As far as I can tell, as long as they can sell IDs, cookies, email accounts, and advertising they couldn’t care less what you think. Communists (authoritarian/totalitarian and libertarian/democractic), anarchists of all colors and flavors, never see so much restriction, sensitivity, and censorship as exercised in #Fediverse.
Thinking that corporate social media doesn't care what you think, that there is no restriction or censorship of socialist or communist or anarchist thought, that everything is welcome so long as money is made, is thoroughly ahistorical and a blatant disregard for material reality. Thinking that, somehow, the #fediverse is a better representation of #neoliberalism than corporate social media, betrays a basic misunderstanding of what the word even means.
#socialism #communism #marxism #anarchism
yianiris •
For example you can start a "room" on reddit and critically analyze where and why has Marxist theory failed, or how Marxists treating original theory as holly script have prevented revision of theory when it is needed. On lemmy m-l fediverse servers your material just gets deleted and account banned.
see #Chomsky
@aspensmonster
yianiris •
Revolution has never been popular, the idea or proposal for anything revolutionary has received resistance from the exploited and the oppressed just as from the oppressors and the exploiters.
Then there was the song, the revolution will not be televised . :)
#500characterlimit
@aspensmonster
Violet Madder •
Yeeeeah, no. It's downright goofy to make big comparisons or conclusions about this when you have no clue how what goes on over there.
And I don't see how we can honestly have anything resembling a true digital commons until we have totally different infrastructure, like mesh networks or something.
yianiris •
Now that is something we can agree on, but few realize this, the digital air we breath here belongs to a handful of telecom multinationals globally.
But as zapatistas repeat, we struggle for autonomy, we have what we constructed, we miss what we are missing. As long as we remain conscious.
@violetmadder @heretical_i @aspensmonster