In a brazen display of defiance, #Trump’s #DOJ filed papers less than two hours before the 5PM hearing, telling Judge James E. #Boasberg that there was no reason for anyone to come to court because the administration was not going to provide any further information about the #deportation flights.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.24.0_2.pdf
#law #Constitution #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #immigration #Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.24.0_2.pdf
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Nonilex •
The two government filings came on a day of extraordinary resistance to the court by the #Trump admin, which has said that it has not violated Boasberg’s order stopping the flights, but also that he had no authority to issue it in the first place.
#law
Nonilex •
The Court ORDERS that Defendants' 24 Motion to Vacate is DENIED. The hearing will proceed as scheduled. So ORDERED by Chief Judge James E. Boasberg on 3/17/2025.
So, it should start in about 5 minutes.
#law #Constitution #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #Venezuela #immigration #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #Trump #AbuseOfPower
Nonilex •
"Tonight, a DC trial judge supported Tren de Aragua terrorists over the safety of Americans.…This order disregards well-established authority regarding Trump's power, & it puts the public & law enforcement at risk. The DOJ is undeterred in its efforts to work w/the WH, the DHS, & all of our partners to stop this invasion & Make America Safe Again.”
The issue is compliance w/the #law & has nothing to do with “support” of terrorists.
Nonilex •
Chief Judge Boasberg begins the hearing. Lee Gelernt & others from the #ACLU are there in person, along with others from #DemocracyForward.
For the government, appearing are Abishek Kambli & August Flentje.
#law #Constitution #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #immigration #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #Trump
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Nonilex •
Boasberg asks "How many planes departed the US at any point on Saturday carrying any people being deported solely on the basis of the proclamation."
DOJ refuses to answer!!
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Nonilex •
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Nonilex •
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Nonilex •
The government continues to refuse to disclose any information. Boasberg asks why it can't be said outside of the public, & the #DOJ attorney refuses to say why.
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Nonilex •
He points out that if the answers are classified, fine, just tell him.
Boasberg remains incredulous at the fact that the govt won't even tell him why they won't tell him how many flights took off. #DOJ says all he can say is that the flights took off before his order, & he suggests that's not relevant to #compliance.
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Nonilex •
He asks if the #DOJ can provide in writing tomorrow by noon what their position is communicating the info to him.
Boasberg to the DOJ: "Let me just tell you the questions that I wish you could answer, & that I will be asking you.”
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Nonilex •
1. How many planes departed the US at any time on Saturday carrying any people being deported solely on the basis of the proclamation?
2. How many people in that category were on those planes?
3. What foreign countries did those planes land in?
4. What time did the planes leave the US?
5. What time did they enter foreign airspace?
6. What time did they land?
7. What time were those individuals transferred into foreign custody?
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#law #Constitution #Trump
Nonilex •
Lee says "we're getting very close" to a #ConstitutionalCrisis.
the audio is unclear Lee's comments aren’t all relayed. He says it appears there is an admission that there may have been a flight which left after the order? the third flight?
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Nonilex •
Boasberg notes #DOJ says they're representing no one on the third flight was subject to the #AEA, so Lee asks that they submit a sworn declaration.
Lee notes the govt is distinguishing between the AEA proclamation & a claimed inherent presidential authority, & asks for more on that.
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#law #Constitution #immigration #Venezuela #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #AlienEnemiesAct #Trump
Nonilex •
#Boasberg asks for that to be part of noon tmw filing
Boasberg moves on to the core issue:
Did the #Trump admin violate the court’s order?
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Nonilex •
Boasberg notes he said “you shall inform your clients immediately” ... that any planes that are going to take off, or are in the air, shall be turned around….
He asks "You're telling me your first argument" is that didn't apply because it wasn't in the minute order?
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#law #Constitution #Trump
Nonilex •
DOJ lawyer says that's what his client [#Trump] has instructed him to argue. Boasberg is incredulous & keeps pushing back.
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Nonilex •
#DOJ then basically says that's what they're arguing, then pivots to the international waters argument.
Boasberg explores the argument about being outside the US. He asks whether the DOJ is arguing that because the plane was outside US airspace, his order did not apply.
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#law #Constitution #Judiciary #AbuseOfPower #Trump
Nonilex •
#Boasberg says "the equitable power of the United States courts is not so limited," saying it's "pretty clear" that even if the enjoined acts were outside the territory of the US, you can't violate it.
"What argument do you have the equity stops at this country's borders"?
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Nonilex •
DOJ says the people had physically been removed so he no longer had jurisdiction.
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#law #Constitution #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #Trump #AlienEnemiesAct
Nonilex •
#DOJ says "when the planes are in the sky and there is sensitive national security, that's not a call that can be made."
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Nonilex •
#DOJ then says that isn't what they're arguing & then shifts to their third argument, which is inherent presidential authority to move military forces.
/again, these were not #military flights!
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#law #Constitution #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #Trump #AlienEnemiesAct
Nonilex •
"I'm not calling into the question the government's foreign policy ... I'm just asking how you think my equitable powers do not attach to the plane ... ?"
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Nonilex •
#Boasberg seems skeptical at a minimum, & asks if the president's foreign power exists only once the plane crosses into international airspace?
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Nonilex •
#DOJ basically says yes, then starts repeating previous arguments.
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Nonilex •
He pauses & says this is a complex question & it would be better to be arguing them on the basis of the #facts, pointing out again #DOJ didn't give them the facts.
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Nonilex •
Lee begins by pointing out the best way to deal with a #TRO they disagreed with was to obey & then appeal.
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Nonilex •
The #DOJ atty says that he does not have any information right now as to when the proclamation was signed, & Boasberg asks him to submit that information as well by noon tomorrow, & for the DOJ to provide an argument for when the proclamation went into effect.
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Nonilex •
#DOJ says they don't have it. #ACLU also says they don't have it, & points out that the proclamation is vague enough that it's hard for anyone to figure out who is subject.
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#law #Constitution #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #immigration #Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #AlienEnemiesAct #Trump
Nonilex •
#Boasberg orders #DOJ to say how many people are designated under AEA. DOJ says again they may refuse.
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#law #Constitution #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #immigration #Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #AlienEnemiesAct #Trump
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Nonilex •
Here’s the exact quote:
“Two more questions for Mr. Kambli (for the US govt) that don't relate to CONTEMPT / disobeying court orders. 1) Was Trump's Tren de Aragua proclamation signed in secret on Friday? Or on Saturday? Need to know timing & when US thinks it went into effect.”
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Nonilex •
Advocates have launched a WhatsApp helpline for people searching for family members, while #immigration attorneys have tried to locate their clients after they went dark.
#law #Constitution #DueProcess #CivilRights #USpol #Trump #AbuseOfPower #AlienEnemiesAct
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/relatives-missing-venezuelan-migrants-desperate-answers-after-us-deportations-el-2025-03-17/
Nonilex •
1. Everyone on the third plane had a final order of removal, so was not deported under the #AEA
2. The Proclamation was signed Friday but didn't go into effect until posted on the WH website
3. #ICE alleges there are 258 known #TdA members in the US
#law #Constitution #AlienEnemiesAct #immigration #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #Venezuela #CivilRights #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower
Nonilex •
#law #Constitution #immigration #AlienEnemiesAct #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess#Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower
Nonilex •
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.28.0_1.pdf
And here's the accompanying declaration with the data:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.28.1.pdf
#law #Constitution #immigration #AlienEnemiesAct #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess#Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #Trump
Nonilex •
DOJ then said the Court's oral pronouncements prior to the written order being docketed "were not independently
enforceable as injunctions"
[this is bullshit]
#law #Judiciary #Trump
Nonilex •
[Not time-sensitive? They were literally flying people out if the country as fast as they could to avoid complying with the court’s order]
#law #immigration #AlienEnemiesAct #DueProcess #Judiciary #Trump
Nonilex •
"[A]ll individuals on that third plane had Title 8 final removal orders."
That means this flight complied with the order.
#law #Constitution #immigration #AlienEnemiesAct #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #Trump
Nonilex •
#UnitedStates Govt attorney:
"Would this TRO apply to aliens that otherwise have final orders of removal, because from our perspective, that would be an independent basis to effectuate their removal?"
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Judge #Boasberg: "That's fair. ... Yes, Mr. Ensign, I agree."
#law #Constitution #immigration #AlienEnemiesAct #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #Trump
Nonilex •
#law #Constitution #immigration #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #Trump
Nonilex •
Flying a person to a third country that they may never have been to, directly into a prison where they are going to be forced to do hard labor, is not a #deportation; it's something else entirely.
#law #Constitution #immigration #AlienEnemiesAct #CivilRights #Trump
Nonilex •
Historical note: When President Lincoln *actually suspended* #HabeasCorpus under the Suspension Act of 1863, he was required to provide lists of all people detained who were not POWs to the circuit court. He complied. While prosecuting an *actual war*.
(Ex parte Milligan - https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/71/2%26nbsp)
#law #Constitution #immigration #AlienEnemiesAct #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower #Trump
Ex parte Milligan
LII / Legal Information InstituteNonilex •
The #UnitedStates government under #Trump by all accounts is shipping these people into indefinite involuntary servitude in #ElSalvador without even the pretense of any #judicial process, much less duly convicting them of a #crime. It’s an enslaving operation.
It is #HumanTrafficking.
#law #Constitution #immigration #AlienEnemiesAct #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #Venezuela #CivilRights #ChecksAndBalances #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #AbuseOfPower
Nonilex •
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/
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Here is the new minute entry in #JGGvTrump:
Heretical_i hat dies geteilt
Nonilex •
Photos of the #Venezuelans illegally *deported* by #Trump under the #AlienEnemiesAct to the maximum security prison Terrorist Confinement Centre (#CECOT) in Tecoluca, #ElSalvador
Photos, released by the Presidencia El Salvador.
#law #Constitution #immigration #14thAmendment #5thAmendment #DueProcess #CivilRights #JudicialBranch #Judiciary #SeparationOfPowers #CoEqualBranchesOfGovernment #ConstitutionalCrisis #AbuseOfPower #HumanTrafficking #Slavery
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