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@Georgiana Brummell
So I'll try to do a Hubzilla vs Friendica comparison here. Hold on and take some time, for this will be very, very, very long. 42 lines of comparison with over 10,000 characters.
Friendica was created by Mike Macgirvin in 2010.
Hubzilla started out as a Friendica fork by Mike Macgirvin himself in 2012, originally named Red (from spanish la red = the network), then renamed Red Matrix. It was repositioned, reworked, massively extended beyond Friendica's features and renamed Hubzilla in 2015.
Friendica has native Android apps, a closed beta native iOS app and support for Mastodon apps, even though Mastodon apps only cover 20% of Friendica's features at most. Hubzilla doesn't have any mobile apps, at least none for iOS, none in the Google Play Store, none that could be installed on a new Android device and none with a fully native mobile user interface.
Hubzilla also also doesn't support Mastodon apps and never will. That's mainly because a Mastodon app can't cover over 90% of Hubzilla's features, including features which you need all the time such as file upload, image embedding, handling of connections and permission controls, simply because Mastodon doesn't have these features. Hubzilla would require its very own apps, and due to Hubzilla's immense complexity and wealth of features, a fully-featured, dedicated Hubzilla app would be absolutely gargantuan and just as complex as Hubzilla itself.
On Friendica, ActivityPub federation is available from the get-go. On Hubzilla, ActivityPub federation is optional, and on newly-created channels, it is off by default.
Friendica can integrate Bluesky and Tumblr accounts. Hubzilla can't.
On Friendica, your account is your identity. Your identity is firmly tied to your account. On hubzilla, your identity is independent from your account. It resides in a container called a "channel", of which you can have multiple, fully independent ones on the same account. This also allows you to switch back and forth between channels or identities without logging out and back in.
Friendica has limited capabilities of moving your identity to another instance. Hubzilla has nomadic identity. For one, this makes it possible to relocate an entire channel with all posts, all comments, all private messages, all connections, nearly all settings, all files in your file space etc. etc. to another instance. Besides, it makes it possible to clone a channel to one or multiple other instances. This gives you live, hot, real-time, bidirectional backups of your channel, and you can log into and use any of them. That way, your channel is much more resilient against instance shutdown.
If you delete a Hubzilla channel, you cannot create a channel with the same short name on the same Hubzilla hub unless the admin fully deletes your channel from the database.
If you delete a clone of a Hubzilla channel, you cannot clone the same channel back to the same hub unless the admin fully deletes your channel from the database.
Friendica has client-side support for OpenWebAuth magic single sign-on. Hubzilla has full support. This means that Friendica logins are recognised by instances with full OpenWebAuth support, but Friendica itself doesn't recognise logins elsewhere. Hubzilla logins are recognised the same, and Hubzilla does recognise logins elsewhere.
Friendica has some basic permission control. On Hubzilla, it is much more advanced and fine-grained.
On Friendica, you can set your profile to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your profile to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.
On Friendica, you can set your list of connections to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your connections to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.
On Friendica, you can set your timeline to private; as far as I know, this happens along with setting your profile to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your stream to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.
I don't know if Friendica can give specific permissions to specific connections. Hubzilla has so-called "contact roles". Each contact has a contact role that grants or denies 17 different permissions. Permissions granted channel-wide from the channel role are inherited by all contact roles. Two of these permissions are for your contacts to send you their posts and for your contacts to send you private messages.
On Hubzilla, you can keep both everyone and specific contacts from sending you repeats/boosts/reposts/renotes with a line of filter syntax in a filter blacklist.
On Hubzilla, you can send any of your posts as public, only to yourself, to all members of a privacy group (which is similar to a circle on Friendica), to whoever is assigned a certain non-default profile, to one specific group/forum or to a custom selection of contacts. You can also define your default post audience, either one of your privacy groups, or your posts are public by default.
Hubzilla has three levels of reply control. At channel level, you can give permission to reply to your posts to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself. In addition, you can choose to let comments in from those who are not permitted to comment on your posts, preview them and then manually decide whether or not you accept each comment.
Reply control at per-contact level means that you can use contact roles to grant or deny permission to reply to your comments to certain connections.
Reply control at per-post level is optional and off by default. It lets you disallow comments on individual posts of yours entirely.
Likewise, there is quote-post control at channel level and at per-contact level.
On Friendica, you can report posts to the admin. On Hubzilla, you can't. This feature is currently being discussed.
I don't know about Friendica, but Hubzilla has a channel-wide filter with a whitelist and a blacklist, and optionally, it has an individual filter for each connection with a whitelist and a blacklist.
Hubzilla allows regular expressions in filter lines, but only for normal keywords, not in lines with filter syntax.
Hubzilla's filter syntax can recognise posts, comments and private messages. This is of very limited usefulness, however: If you want to whitelist certain keywords for posts, but let all comments and all private messages through, you'd have to use filter syntax in a whitelist. But in whitelists, keyword lines are connected with "or" whereas filter syntax lines are connected with "and" which means that you cannot combine keywords with filter syntax. There is also filter syntax for keywords, but these lines are connected with "and" in whitelists, too, and each line can only contain one keyword with no regular expression.
On Friendica, summaries or Mastodon-style content warnings are created with a pair of BBcode tags, either
Friendica optionally offers Markdown for text formatting in addition to BBcode. Hubzilla only offers BBcode.
Friendica doesn't have or support polls. Hubzilla has full support for basically unlimited polls.
Friendica calls reposting "sharing" and quote-posting "quoted sharing". Hubzilla calls reposting "repeating" and quote-posting "sharing".
On Hubzilla, you can optionally be notified when a stranger mentions you out of the blue outside any conversation on your stream.
On Friendica, you can make a group restricted or private. On Hubzilla, you can give a group or a forum privacy, too, but by choosing the "Custom" channel role instead of the "Community forum" channel role, and you have to adjust the level of privacy by hand. The advantage is that you have fine-grained control over what exactly you want to be private in your group or forum.
Private Friendica groups can be joined by users on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and probably also Forte. Private Hubzilla groups or forums can only be joined by users on Hubzilla, (streams) and maybe Forte.
Friendica has a central directory of users, groups etc., the Friendica Directory. Hubzilla doesn't have such a thing.
Friendica nodes have their own directories; I'm not sure if they only list Friendica accounts or accounts and channels of everything that uses ActivityPub, or if they even include diaspora* users. Hubzilla hubs have such directories, too, but they only list Hubzilla and (streams) channels because they can only list what uses the built-in and permanently activated Nomad protocol.
In your Hubzilla directory, you can hide channels that are flagged not safe for work.
Hubzilla has an option that gives those who are permitted to see a post the permission to also see any media embedded in the post, regardless of the permissions set for the respective media in your file space. This was introduced due to the wide-spread issue of people uploading images and setting them or the directores the images are in to private, then embedding them into public posts and the audience of the posts not seeing the images.
On Hubzilla, you can give guest access tokens to people whom you want to access certain files or directories in your file space.
The file space built into your Hubzilla channel can be accessed via WebDAV.
Hubzilla also has a built-in CalDAV calendar server which can use the event calendar as a simple frontend and an optional headless CardDAV addressbook server.
Hubzilla optionally has "articles", long-form text posts with the same full text formatting capabilities as normal posts, but which don't federate.
Hubzilla optionally has "cards", basically planning cards with the same features as articles plus a few extra features.
Hubzilla optionally has multiple wikis per channel with multiple pages per wiki. Wikis can be set up to use either BBcode or Markdown as their markup language with a few wiki-specific additions in both cases.
Hubzilla optionally has simple, static webpages which can be formatted with either BBcode, Markdown or plain HTML. Hubzilla's own official website hubzilla.org is a webpage on a Hubzilla channel.
I think that's about it.
As for diaspora*: Forget it. For one, it does not support ActivityPub, and it does not federate with most of the Fediverse. The diaspora* developers staunchly refuse to add any other protocols to diaspora*, especially ActivityPub. One has actually said that you don't implement ActivityPub, you implement Mastodon. And the diaspora* developers don't want to make themselves dependent on Mastodon.
Besides, diaspora* is withering away. Around December 29th, a number of major diaspora* pods shut down. According to one source, diaspora* lost over half its user accounts in three days. And the closure of diasp.org, one of the biggest pods, is scheduled for April 1st now.
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From the same creator as Friendica and Hubzilla, there is something he created in 2021 at the end of a long and somewhat complex line of forks. It is officially and intentionally nameless, brandless, not a project and released into the public domain. Colloquially, it is named (streams) in parentheses after the name of its code repository. You can find the latter with an extensive readme here. It is slimmed down in features from Hubzilla, and it doesn't offer nearly the connection and federation options of Friendica and Hubzilla. But it is easier to handle while still having a steeper learning curve than Friendica, and especially its permission system is both another bit powerful and significantly easier to use than Hubzilla's.
(streams) has no mobile apps and no compatibility with Mastodon apps either for the same reasons as why Hubzilla doesn't isn't compatible with Mastodon apps.
(streams) is included in my comparison tables, too. If you want me, I can rattle down another comparison with Friendica like the one with Hubzilla above.
In August, 2024, Mike made another fork based on (streams) named Forte. It's basically (streams), but with a name, with a brand identity, as a project, released under the MIT license and with no support for the Nomad protocol anymore. It does everything using only ActivityPub. This also means that it relies entirely on ActivityPub for nomadic identity. Since especially this is still highly experimental, Forte itself has not officially been released yet, it is not recommended as a reliable daily driver, nor does it have public, open-registration instances.
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As far as I know, different Friendica nodes have different default themes, especially now that the Facebook-like Bookface theme may be officially included into Friendica.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #diaspora* #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte
What are the differences between Diaspora, Pleroma, Hubzilla, Hometown, and Glitch? How do they compare to Friendica as far as features?As for Hubzilla vs Friendica, I've made a series of tables that compare Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams). I've made them for those who are looking for a Facebook alternative in the Fediverse, but who only know Mastodon first-hand and Friendica from hearsay. But these tables are useless for blind or visually-impaired users, and I can't change that because it's in the nature of tables. Also, I don't have all data for Friendica yet. (In case someone sighted comes across this comment and wants to see the tables: Here they are).
So I'll try to do a Hubzilla vs Friendica comparison here. Hold on and take some time, for this will be very, very, very long. 42 lines of comparison with over 10,000 characters.
Friendica was created by Mike Macgirvin in 2010.
Hubzilla started out as a Friendica fork by Mike Macgirvin himself in 2012, originally named Red (from spanish la red = the network), then renamed Red Matrix. It was repositioned, reworked, massively extended beyond Friendica's features and renamed Hubzilla in 2015.
Friendica has native Android apps, a closed beta native iOS app and support for Mastodon apps, even though Mastodon apps only cover 20% of Friendica's features at most. Hubzilla doesn't have any mobile apps, at least none for iOS, none in the Google Play Store, none that could be installed on a new Android device and none with a fully native mobile user interface.
Hubzilla also also doesn't support Mastodon apps and never will. That's mainly because a Mastodon app can't cover over 90% of Hubzilla's features, including features which you need all the time such as file upload, image embedding, handling of connections and permission controls, simply because Mastodon doesn't have these features. Hubzilla would require its very own apps, and due to Hubzilla's immense complexity and wealth of features, a fully-featured, dedicated Hubzilla app would be absolutely gargantuan and just as complex as Hubzilla itself.
On Friendica, ActivityPub federation is available from the get-go. On Hubzilla, ActivityPub federation is optional, and on newly-created channels, it is off by default.
Friendica can integrate Bluesky and Tumblr accounts. Hubzilla can't.
On Friendica, your account is your identity. Your identity is firmly tied to your account. On hubzilla, your identity is independent from your account. It resides in a container called a "channel", of which you can have multiple, fully independent ones on the same account. This also allows you to switch back and forth between channels or identities without logging out and back in.
Friendica has limited capabilities of moving your identity to another instance. Hubzilla has nomadic identity. For one, this makes it possible to relocate an entire channel with all posts, all comments, all private messages, all connections, nearly all settings, all files in your file space etc. etc. to another instance. Besides, it makes it possible to clone a channel to one or multiple other instances. This gives you live, hot, real-time, bidirectional backups of your channel, and you can log into and use any of them. That way, your channel is much more resilient against instance shutdown.
If you delete a Hubzilla channel, you cannot create a channel with the same short name on the same Hubzilla hub unless the admin fully deletes your channel from the database.
If you delete a clone of a Hubzilla channel, you cannot clone the same channel back to the same hub unless the admin fully deletes your channel from the database.
Friendica has client-side support for OpenWebAuth magic single sign-on. Hubzilla has full support. This means that Friendica logins are recognised by instances with full OpenWebAuth support, but Friendica itself doesn't recognise logins elsewhere. Hubzilla logins are recognised the same, and Hubzilla does recognise logins elsewhere.
Friendica has some basic permission control. On Hubzilla, it is much more advanced and fine-grained.
On Friendica, you can set your profile to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your profile to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.
On Friendica, you can set your list of connections to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your connections to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.
On Friendica, you can set your timeline to private; as far as I know, this happens along with setting your profile to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your stream to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.
I don't know if Friendica can give specific permissions to specific connections. Hubzilla has so-called "contact roles". Each contact has a contact role that grants or denies 17 different permissions. Permissions granted channel-wide from the channel role are inherited by all contact roles. Two of these permissions are for your contacts to send you their posts and for your contacts to send you private messages.
On Hubzilla, you can keep both everyone and specific contacts from sending you repeats/boosts/reposts/renotes with a line of filter syntax in a filter blacklist.
On Hubzilla, you can send any of your posts as public, only to yourself, to all members of a privacy group (which is similar to a circle on Friendica), to whoever is assigned a certain non-default profile, to one specific group/forum or to a custom selection of contacts. You can also define your default post audience, either one of your privacy groups, or your posts are public by default.
Hubzilla has three levels of reply control. At channel level, you can give permission to reply to your posts to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself. In addition, you can choose to let comments in from those who are not permitted to comment on your posts, preview them and then manually decide whether or not you accept each comment.
Reply control at per-contact level means that you can use contact roles to grant or deny permission to reply to your comments to certain connections.
Reply control at per-post level is optional and off by default. It lets you disallow comments on individual posts of yours entirely.
Likewise, there is quote-post control at channel level and at per-contact level.
On Friendica, you can report posts to the admin. On Hubzilla, you can't. This feature is currently being discussed.
I don't know about Friendica, but Hubzilla has a channel-wide filter with a whitelist and a blacklist, and optionally, it has an individual filter for each connection with a whitelist and a blacklist.
Hubzilla allows regular expressions in filter lines, but only for normal keywords, not in lines with filter syntax.
Hubzilla's filter syntax can recognise posts, comments and private messages. This is of very limited usefulness, however: If you want to whitelist certain keywords for posts, but let all comments and all private messages through, you'd have to use filter syntax in a whitelist. But in whitelists, keyword lines are connected with "or" whereas filter syntax lines are connected with "and" which means that you cannot combine keywords with filter syntax. There is also filter syntax for keywords, but these lines are connected with "and" in whitelists, too, and each line can only contain one keyword with no regular expression.
On Friendica, summaries or Mastodon-style content warnings are created with a pair of BBcode tags, either
[abstract][/abstract] or [abstract=apub][/abstract]. This works for posts, comments and private messages. Hubzilla has a dedicated summary field for posts, but none for comments. In theory, it also has the BBcode tag pair [summary][/summary], but in practice, it is broken.Friendica optionally offers Markdown for text formatting in addition to BBcode. Hubzilla only offers BBcode.
Friendica doesn't have or support polls. Hubzilla has full support for basically unlimited polls.
Friendica calls reposting "sharing" and quote-posting "quoted sharing". Hubzilla calls reposting "repeating" and quote-posting "sharing".
On Hubzilla, you can optionally be notified when a stranger mentions you out of the blue outside any conversation on your stream.
On Friendica, you can make a group restricted or private. On Hubzilla, you can give a group or a forum privacy, too, but by choosing the "Custom" channel role instead of the "Community forum" channel role, and you have to adjust the level of privacy by hand. The advantage is that you have fine-grained control over what exactly you want to be private in your group or forum.
Private Friendica groups can be joined by users on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and probably also Forte. Private Hubzilla groups or forums can only be joined by users on Hubzilla, (streams) and maybe Forte.
Friendica has a central directory of users, groups etc., the Friendica Directory. Hubzilla doesn't have such a thing.
Friendica nodes have their own directories; I'm not sure if they only list Friendica accounts or accounts and channels of everything that uses ActivityPub, or if they even include diaspora* users. Hubzilla hubs have such directories, too, but they only list Hubzilla and (streams) channels because they can only list what uses the built-in and permanently activated Nomad protocol.
In your Hubzilla directory, you can hide channels that are flagged not safe for work.
Hubzilla has an option that gives those who are permitted to see a post the permission to also see any media embedded in the post, regardless of the permissions set for the respective media in your file space. This was introduced due to the wide-spread issue of people uploading images and setting them or the directores the images are in to private, then embedding them into public posts and the audience of the posts not seeing the images.
On Hubzilla, you can give guest access tokens to people whom you want to access certain files or directories in your file space.
The file space built into your Hubzilla channel can be accessed via WebDAV.
Hubzilla also has a built-in CalDAV calendar server which can use the event calendar as a simple frontend and an optional headless CardDAV addressbook server.
Hubzilla optionally has "articles", long-form text posts with the same full text formatting capabilities as normal posts, but which don't federate.
Hubzilla optionally has "cards", basically planning cards with the same features as articles plus a few extra features.
Hubzilla optionally has multiple wikis per channel with multiple pages per wiki. Wikis can be set up to use either BBcode or Markdown as their markup language with a few wiki-specific additions in both cases.
Hubzilla optionally has simple, static webpages which can be formatted with either BBcode, Markdown or plain HTML. Hubzilla's own official website hubzilla.org is a webpage on a Hubzilla channel.
I think that's about it.
As for diaspora*: Forget it. For one, it does not support ActivityPub, and it does not federate with most of the Fediverse. The diaspora* developers staunchly refuse to add any other protocols to diaspora*, especially ActivityPub. One has actually said that you don't implement ActivityPub, you implement Mastodon. And the diaspora* developers don't want to make themselves dependent on Mastodon.
Besides, diaspora* is withering away. Around December 29th, a number of major diaspora* pods shut down. According to one source, diaspora* lost over half its user accounts in three days. And the closure of diasp.org, one of the biggest pods, is scheduled for April 1st now.
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Are there any other networks I should know about?End quote.
From the same creator as Friendica and Hubzilla, there is something he created in 2021 at the end of a long and somewhat complex line of forks. It is officially and intentionally nameless, brandless, not a project and released into the public domain. Colloquially, it is named (streams) in parentheses after the name of its code repository. You can find the latter with an extensive readme here. It is slimmed down in features from Hubzilla, and it doesn't offer nearly the connection and federation options of Friendica and Hubzilla. But it is easier to handle while still having a steeper learning curve than Friendica, and especially its permission system is both another bit powerful and significantly easier to use than Hubzilla's.
(streams) has no mobile apps and no compatibility with Mastodon apps either for the same reasons as why Hubzilla doesn't isn't compatible with Mastodon apps.
(streams) is included in my comparison tables, too. If you want me, I can rattle down another comparison with Friendica like the one with Hubzilla above.
In August, 2024, Mike made another fork based on (streams) named Forte. It's basically (streams), but with a name, with a brand identity, as a project, released under the MIT license and with no support for the Nomad protocol anymore. It does everything using only ActivityPub. This also means that it relies entirely on ActivityPub for nomadic identity. Since especially this is still highly experimental, Forte itself has not officially been released yet, it is not recommended as a reliable daily driver, nor does it have public, open-registration instances.
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Finally, will the interface of the page on Friendica change depending on my instance?End quote.
As far as I know, different Friendica nodes have different default themes, especially now that the Facebook-like Bookface theme may be officially included into Friendica.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #diaspora* #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte
streams
Consent based public domain federated communications server. Provides a feature rich ActivityPub and Nomad communication node.Codeberg.org
@Matthias Richtig.
Das ist genau wie 2022/2023. Da wurde doch die große Masse der Mastodon-Nutzer direkt nach mastodon.social geholt, ohne daß ihnen erklärt wurde, was Mastodon ist (außer dem üblichen "literarisch Twitter ohne Musk") oder gar das Fediverse. Die haben teilweise Monate gebraucht, um überhaupt nur zu merken, daß Mastodon keine einzelne monolithische Silo-Website ist.
Heute gibt's genau das immer noch. Zusätzlich wird den Leuten erklärt:
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #Pixelfed #Loops #Friendica
Das ist genau wie 2022/2023. Da wurde doch die große Masse der Mastodon-Nutzer direkt nach mastodon.social geholt, ohne daß ihnen erklärt wurde, was Mastodon ist (außer dem üblichen "literarisch Twitter ohne Musk") oder gar das Fediverse. Die haben teilweise Monate gebraucht, um überhaupt nur zu merken, daß Mastodon keine einzelne monolithische Silo-Website ist.
Heute gibt's genau das immer noch. Zusätzlich wird den Leuten erklärt:
- Pixelfed = literarisch Instagram ohne Zuckerberg = pixelfed.social
- Loops = literarisch TikTok,
aber in Amiland erreichbarohne Muskwas auch immer = loops.video (gerechtfertigt, da wird's bis auf weiteres nur die eine Instanz geben) - Friendica = literarisch Facebook ohne Zuckerberg = friendica.world (auch weil die meisten Amis keinen anderen englischsprachigen Node kennen, weil die anderen großen Nodes alle deutsch sind)
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #Pixelfed #Loops #Friendica
It seems like a perfect time to (re)introduce ⁂ as a symbol for the fediverse! Read our proposal at https://symbol.fediverse.info
#fediverse #fedimeta
#fediverse #fedimeta
@crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts
Aber erstens sind selbst Unis mit Informatikstudiengängen in Sachen IT genauso langsam wie andere Institutionen in Deutschland. Bei denen kommt gerade kleckerweise die Erkenntnis über die Existenz von Mastodon an. Wenn man Glück hat, halten sie das Fediverse für nur Mastodon. Viel eher haben sie vom Fediverse noch nie gehört.
Zweitens suchen sie ja "nur" nach einem Ersatz für 𝕏. Erstmal. Da ist Mastodon für sie auf den ersten Blick mehr als genug. Also gehen sie nach Mastodon. Und weil sie weder Mastodon noch das Fediverse verstanden haben und Mastodon womöglich für eine monolithische Silo-Website halten, schlimmstenfalls nach mastodon.social. Von da aber woandershin umzuziehen, wäre so aufwendig, daß sie dann an diesem Mastodon-Konto bis in alle Ewigkeit festhalten werden, komme, was wolle.
Und drittens: Sogar Unis mit Informatikstudiengängen haben doch heutzutage keine eigene IT mehr. Das haben die alles ähnlich outgesourcet wie der deutsche Mittelstand, nämlich an die Klitsche, die dafür am wenigsten Geld verlangt. Viele Unis dürften tatsächlich IT ohne jegliche Wartung und Betreuung haben, weil die lokale Computerbude, die ihnen das alles damals eingerichtet hat, ein paar Jahre später dichtgemacht und weder Dokumentation noch Paßwörter dagelassen hat. Wer soll da also eine Instanz für irgendwas aufsetzen und betreuen?
CC: @caos
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla
da hatte ich ja mehr auf die Unis gehofft.Gerade Unis sehe ich ja am ehesten noch auf Hubzilla. Solche Institutionen können Hubzillas Exklusivfeatures bis hin zu Webpages eigentlich sehr gut gebrauchen, sogar auf Studentenkanälen (wobei sich die Frage stellt, ob und inwiefern man nach Studienende seinen Kanal mit allem Drum und Dran dann nomadisch mitnehmen dürfen soll nach woandershin).
Zum einen weil der Funktionsumfang doch eher für deren Bedarf und den der Wissenschaft spricht als 500 Zeichen bei Mastodon. Selbst wenn man das aufbohren kann.
Da bin ich echt ernüchtert worden, das die sich freiwillig so begrenzen.
Aber erstens sind selbst Unis mit Informatikstudiengängen in Sachen IT genauso langsam wie andere Institutionen in Deutschland. Bei denen kommt gerade kleckerweise die Erkenntnis über die Existenz von Mastodon an. Wenn man Glück hat, halten sie das Fediverse für nur Mastodon. Viel eher haben sie vom Fediverse noch nie gehört.
Zweitens suchen sie ja "nur" nach einem Ersatz für 𝕏. Erstmal. Da ist Mastodon für sie auf den ersten Blick mehr als genug. Also gehen sie nach Mastodon. Und weil sie weder Mastodon noch das Fediverse verstanden haben und Mastodon womöglich für eine monolithische Silo-Website halten, schlimmstenfalls nach mastodon.social. Von da aber woandershin umzuziehen, wäre so aufwendig, daß sie dann an diesem Mastodon-Konto bis in alle Ewigkeit festhalten werden, komme, was wolle.
Und drittens: Sogar Unis mit Informatikstudiengängen haben doch heutzutage keine eigene IT mehr. Das haben die alles ähnlich outgesourcet wie der deutsche Mittelstand, nämlich an die Klitsche, die dafür am wenigsten Geld verlangt. Viele Unis dürften tatsächlich IT ohne jegliche Wartung und Betreuung haben, weil die lokale Computerbude, die ihnen das alles damals eingerichtet hat, ein paar Jahre später dichtgemacht und weder Dokumentation noch Paßwörter dagelassen hat. Wer soll da also eine Instanz für irgendwas aufsetzen und betreuen?
CC: @caos
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla
@utopiArte Friendica or, better yet, (streams) or Hubzilla.
Friendica has been around since 2010. It's the oldest surviving Fediverse project. It even predates diaspora* by several months. It was created with the very intent of having an alternative to Facebook that's better than Facebook.
Hubzilla was created in 2015 from a 2012 Friendica fork, all by Friendica's own creator. So it's older than Mastodon, too.
(streams) is from 2021, the most technologically advanced of the bunch. It was created by the same guy who also made Friendica, Hubzilla and everything in-between, and who still maintains it.
Just yesterday, I've published a comparison of all three with Mastodon.
There's also the (streams) fork Forte which is basically (streams) with a name, a brand identity and a license and without any support for the Nomad protocol, only using ActivityPub for everything. But I don't recommend it as long as it isn't officially declared stable.
"Unshittified, decentralized, and free" applies to all four. Friendica was relicensed by its new maintainers from the MIT license to the GNU Affero GPL in 2012. Hubzilla and Forte are still under the MIT license. And at least the core streams repository was intentionally released into the public domain.
CC: @Cory Doctorow @Rusty Shackleford
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Friendica has been around since 2010. It's the oldest surviving Fediverse project. It even predates diaspora* by several months. It was created with the very intent of having an alternative to Facebook that's better than Facebook.
Hubzilla was created in 2015 from a 2012 Friendica fork, all by Friendica's own creator. So it's older than Mastodon, too.
(streams) is from 2021, the most technologically advanced of the bunch. It was created by the same guy who also made Friendica, Hubzilla and everything in-between, and who still maintains it.
Just yesterday, I've published a comparison of all three with Mastodon.
There's also the (streams) fork Forte which is basically (streams) with a name, a brand identity and a license and without any support for the Nomad protocol, only using ActivityPub for everything. But I don't recommend it as long as it isn't officially declared stable.
"Unshittified, decentralized, and free" applies to all four. Friendica was relicensed by its new maintainers from the MIT license to the GNU Affero GPL in 2012. Hubzilla and Forte are still under the MIT license. And at least the core streams repository was intentionally released into the public domain.
CC: @Cory Doctorow @Rusty Shackleford
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Mastodon vs Facebook alternatives
Comparison between Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams)hub.netzgemeinde.eu
@Sheila DeBonis Good news: The Mastodon/Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams) comparison tables are mostly done. I'll just tweak them every now and then.
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Mastodon vs Facebook alternatives
Comparison between Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams)hub.netzgemeinde.eu
@Sheila DeBonis I'm working on an extensive comparison table for
right now.
By the way, I'm on Hubzilla myself.
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- Mastodon
- Friendica
- Hubzilla (emerged from a fork of Friendica)
- (streams) (fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of Hubzilla)
right now.
By the way, I'm on Hubzilla myself.
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Mastodon vs Facebook alternatives
The first version of my comparison table for Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) is out as an article on this channel.
I've intentionally added Mastodon so that Mastodon users have a reference, and so that it's clear that Mastodon doesn't work too well as an alternative to Facebook.
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I've intentionally added Mastodon so that Mastodon users have a reference, and so that it's clear that Mastodon doesn't work too well as an alternative to Facebook.
#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Facebook #FacebookAlternative
Mastodon vs Facebook alternatives
Comparison between Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams)hub.netzgemeinde.eu
@PaulaToThePeople A few additions:
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- https://fedidb.org/software
- https://misskey-hub.net/en/servers/ (official Misskey server list; alternative to 𝕏 and Threads; caution: misskey.io is blocked by almost all western Fediverse instances)
- https://dir.friendica.social/servers (official Friendica node list; alternative to Facebook)
- https://rumbly.net/communities?type=streams_repository (known instances of a (streams) instance filtered for (streams) instances; alternative to Facebook)
- https://joinmbin.org/servers (official Mbin server list; alternative to Reddit and Hacker News)
- https://join.piefed.social/try/ (official PieFed instance list; alternative to Reddit and Hacker News)
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FediDB, Fediverse Network Statistics
FediDB is a cutting-edge service providing detailed statistics and insights into the Fediverse network.fedidb.org
@crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts Zum Glück nicht nur nach Mastodon. Viele sind neu auf Friendica, un ich hab jetzt zwei nach Hubzilla und möglicherweise einen an Friendica und Hubzilla vorbei nach (streams) gekriegt.
Aber neue Sprechstunde wär mal wieder nice.
CC: @Doris :fediverse:🦉🇪🇺
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Aber neue Sprechstunde wär mal wieder nice.
CC: @Doris :fediverse:🦉🇪🇺
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@crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts Wenn's auf mastodon.social war, keine Chance. Nicht wegen politischen Bias der Mods, sondern weil der Laden so untermoderiert ist, daß genau deshalb etliche Instanzen mastodon.social schon gesperrt haben. Selbst bei vollautomatisierten Spambots brauchen sie Tage, um zu reagieren.
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May the facepalming commence
Two things are becoming glaringly obvious currently.
One, it seems like aspiring Facebook escapees want and expect Facebook as it was in December, 2024, in the Fediverse. Maybe also because that's what they're told Friendica is. Just like Twitter escapees have been wanting and expecting Mastodon (and the Fediverse as a whole) to be literally Twitter without Musk, but otherwise absolutely identical to Twitter. Because that's what they were told.
People don't want something that's better than the original. Because that's different from the original. People want 1:1 clones of the original.
Two, lots of Mastodon users, even many of those who have been around since the second Twitter migration wave of late 2022 (as in over two years)k, haven't understood the Fediverse yet. They think their Mastodon account can only connect to Mastodon accounts, and a Friendica account can only connect to Friendica accounts, and so they need a Friendica account in parallel to their Mastodon account in order to be able to stay in contact with both new Friendica users and current Mastodon users.
Little do they probably know that they already follow users of Friendica, Hubzilla, Misskey, Sharkey, Iceshrimp, Akkoma, Mbin etc. on their Mastodon accounts because Mastodon doesn't tell them. Even less do they know that Friendica is the federation world champion. Not only does it connect to everything in the ActivityPub-using Fediverse, including Mastodon, but it also has more non-ActivityPub connection options than anything else.
Not so obvious yet: If a significant number of Facebook users does end up on Friendica, we'll have a wonderful clash of cultures in the Fediverse.
Beware if faction #3 discovers Lemmy communities and starts joining them. For Lemmy's culture is almost identical to Reddit's culture, whether #1 wants or not.
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One, it seems like aspiring Facebook escapees want and expect Facebook as it was in December, 2024, in the Fediverse. Maybe also because that's what they're told Friendica is. Just like Twitter escapees have been wanting and expecting Mastodon (and the Fediverse as a whole) to be literally Twitter without Musk, but otherwise absolutely identical to Twitter. Because that's what they were told.
People don't want something that's better than the original. Because that's different from the original. People want 1:1 clones of the original.
Two, lots of Mastodon users, even many of those who have been around since the second Twitter migration wave of late 2022 (as in over two years)k, haven't understood the Fediverse yet. They think their Mastodon account can only connect to Mastodon accounts, and a Friendica account can only connect to Friendica accounts, and so they need a Friendica account in parallel to their Mastodon account in order to be able to stay in contact with both new Friendica users and current Mastodon users.
Little do they probably know that they already follow users of Friendica, Hubzilla, Misskey, Sharkey, Iceshrimp, Akkoma, Mbin etc. on their Mastodon accounts because Mastodon doesn't tell them. Even less do they know that Friendica is the federation world champion. Not only does it connect to everything in the ActivityPub-using Fediverse, including Mastodon, but it also has more non-ActivityPub connection options than anything else.
Not so obvious yet: If a significant number of Facebook users does end up on Friendica, we'll have a wonderful clash of cultures in the Fediverse.
- Faction #1: almost three years worth of Twitter refugees on Mastodon who still want to force Mastodon's culture upon the whole Fediverse. Including Friendica.
- Faction #2: fresh arrivals on Mastodon from Twitter who want to keep living their Twitter culture, and who don't even expect Mastodon to have its own culture.
- Faction #3: fresh arrivals on Friendica from Facebook who want to keep living their Facebook culture, and who also end up angering faction #1 with "long posts" (anything with over 500 characters).
- Faction #4: the old Fediverse guard, especially on Friendica where some users have been since years before Mastodon has even been created, who are being lectured by faction #1 and accused of harassment by factions #2 and #3.
Beware if faction #3 discovers Lemmy communities and starts joining them. For Lemmy's culture is almost identical to Reddit's culture, whether #1 wants or not.
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@Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝ @Daniel de Kay Mastodon hat ja einen HTML-"Sanitiser". Bis Mastodon 3 hat der alles an HTML rausgeschmissen und alle Posts von überallher in Reintext umgewandelt, weil Textformatierung in puristischem Microblogging angeblich nichts zu suchen hat. Seit Mastodon 4 "darf" Mastodon zumindest ein paar Formatierungsfeatures darstellen.
Ich weiß aber nicht, wo der Sanitiser sitzt. Wenn er im Backend, sollten Posts von außerhalb auch auf der Mastodon-Weboberfläche sichtbare HTML-Tags haben, weil er dann selbst eine Macke hat.
Wenn er aber im Frontend sitzt, dann muß jede Mastodon-App einen eigenen HTML-Sanitiser haben. Entweder den oder die Fähigkeit, HTML zu rendern. Dann sieht es für mich eher so aus, als wäre @IceCubesApp bis heute gegen die Annahme gebaut, daß das Fediverse nur Mastodon ist und es daher im Fediverse keine Textformatierung gibt, nur Reintext.
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Ich weiß aber nicht, wo der Sanitiser sitzt. Wenn er im Backend, sollten Posts von außerhalb auch auf der Mastodon-Weboberfläche sichtbare HTML-Tags haben, weil er dann selbst eine Macke hat.
Wenn er aber im Frontend sitzt, dann muß jede Mastodon-App einen eigenen HTML-Sanitiser haben. Entweder den oder die Fähigkeit, HTML zu rendern. Dann sieht es für mich eher so aus, als wäre @IceCubesApp bis heute gegen die Annahme gebaut, daß das Fediverse nur Mastodon ist und es daher im Fediverse keine Textformatierung gibt, nur Reintext.
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@Henning Uhle Eigentlich solltest du Friendica-Konten von jeder Mastodon-Instanz aus folgen können. Dafür wirst du nicht groß umziehen müssen, schon gar nicht nach Friendica.
Auch wenn Mastodon ein Twitter-Klon ist und Friendica eine Facebook-Alternative, kannst du trotzdem mit deinem Mastodon-Konto einfach einem Friendica-Konto folgen. Oder jedem anderen Konto auf jeder anderen Art von Server.
Falls dir das zu theoretisch ist, können wir das gerne mal in der Praxis durchspielen, damit du das direkt vor deinen Augen siehst, wie das passiert.
Ich will dafür jetzt nicht irgendjemanden auf Friendica mit reinziehen, also nehmen wir statt dessen meinen Hubzilla-Kanal. Ist dicht genug dran, denn Hubzilla fing mal an als Friendica-Fork von Friendicas eigenem Entwickler.
Jetzt sorgen wir mal zusammen dafür, wie du auf Mastodon mir auf Hubzilla folgst.
Kopier mal in deine Suche auf Mastodon folgendes rein:
Dann schieb mal die Suche an. Die sollte ein Ergebnis anzeigen, dem du folgen kannst. Auch wenn du es auf Mastodon siehst, ist es nicht auf Mastodon, sondern es ist mein Kanal auf Hubzilla.
Und dann folge dem mal.
Falls dich das noch nicht überzeugt, können wir das auch mit (streams) durchspielen. Das ist wieder vom selben Entwickler und noch ein paar Forks später, aber immer noch ziemlich nah an Friendica dran.
Weil ich weiß, daß du Memes magst, such dieses Mal nach dem hier:
Dahinter verbirgt sich übrigens mein Fedimemes-Kanal.
Und versuch wieder, dem zu folgen.
Übrigens: Mit @pepecyb (Friendica) folgst du schon jemandem auf Friendica, und mit @Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝ folgst du demselben auf Hubzilla. Vielleicht hast du es einfach noch nicht gemerkt, weil das alles für dich auch nicht anders aussah als Mastodon. Aber guck dir mal beide jeweils an der Quelle an und sag mir: Sieht das wie Mastodon aus?
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Auch wenn Mastodon ein Twitter-Klon ist und Friendica eine Facebook-Alternative, kannst du trotzdem mit deinem Mastodon-Konto einfach einem Friendica-Konto folgen. Oder jedem anderen Konto auf jeder anderen Art von Server.
Falls dir das zu theoretisch ist, können wir das gerne mal in der Praxis durchspielen, damit du das direkt vor deinen Augen siehst, wie das passiert.
Ich will dafür jetzt nicht irgendjemanden auf Friendica mit reinziehen, also nehmen wir statt dessen meinen Hubzilla-Kanal. Ist dicht genug dran, denn Hubzilla fing mal an als Friendica-Fork von Friendicas eigenem Entwickler.
Jetzt sorgen wir mal zusammen dafür, wie du auf Mastodon mir auf Hubzilla folgst.
Kopier mal in deine Suche auf Mastodon folgendes rein:
@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.euDann schieb mal die Suche an. Die sollte ein Ergebnis anzeigen, dem du folgen kannst. Auch wenn du es auf Mastodon siehst, ist es nicht auf Mastodon, sondern es ist mein Kanal auf Hubzilla.
Und dann folge dem mal.
Falls dich das noch nicht überzeugt, können wir das auch mit (streams) durchspielen. Das ist wieder vom selben Entwickler und noch ein paar Forks später, aber immer noch ziemlich nah an Friendica dran.
Weil ich weiß, daß du Memes magst, such dieses Mal nach dem hier:
@fedimemes_on_streams@streams.elsmussols.netDahinter verbirgt sich übrigens mein Fedimemes-Kanal.
Und versuch wieder, dem zu folgen.
Übrigens: Mit @pepecyb (Friendica) folgst du schon jemandem auf Friendica, und mit @Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝ folgst du demselben auf Hubzilla. Vielleicht hast du es einfach noch nicht gemerkt, weil das alles für dich auch nicht anders aussah als Mastodon. Aber guck dir mal beide jeweils an der Quelle an und sag mir: Sieht das wie Mastodon aus?
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Jupiter's Fedi-Memes on (streams)
This is a special channel for self-made memes about the Fediverse. Don't be too upset if you should come across a whole lot of Mastodon lampooning.streams.elsmussols.net
@crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts Ich kann nur raten, aber ich schätze: Mastodon soll Twitter ersetzen, Friendica soll Facebook ersetzen, Pixelfed soll Instagram ersetzen.
Aber ich weiß aus Erfahrung, daß es Leute gibt, die unmittelbar nach Musks Übernahme von Twitter nach Mastodon gekommen sind und bis heute nicht verstanden haben, wie das Fediverse funktioniert. Für die ist es komplett unvorstellbar, daß man mit einem Twitter-Ersatz einem Facebook-Ersatz oder einem YouTube-Ersatz folgen kann. Auch wenn sie das wahrscheinlich schon längst tun, ohne es je gemerkt zu haben.
@Henning Uhle Für Friendica gibt's auf jeden Fall einen WordPress-Crossposter, falls dein Blog da sein sollte oder technisch kompatibel. Frag mich aber nicht, wie der funktioniert und ob der immer alle deine Posts nach WordPress spiegelt; auch wenn Hubzilla (da bin ich) auch einen hat, habe ich den nie benutzt.
Aber aus Sicht von Veteranen wie @crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts, die nicht von Musk von Twitter nach Mastodon verjagt worden sind, ist dein Mastodon-Konto jetzt eigentlich über. Was du mit Mastodon machen kannst, kannst du auch mit Friendica machen, mit denselben Verbindungen (also auch mit Mastodon-Followers auf Friendica), und zwar sogar noch viel besser.
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Aber ich weiß aus Erfahrung, daß es Leute gibt, die unmittelbar nach Musks Übernahme von Twitter nach Mastodon gekommen sind und bis heute nicht verstanden haben, wie das Fediverse funktioniert. Für die ist es komplett unvorstellbar, daß man mit einem Twitter-Ersatz einem Facebook-Ersatz oder einem YouTube-Ersatz folgen kann. Auch wenn sie das wahrscheinlich schon längst tun, ohne es je gemerkt zu haben.
@Henning Uhle Für Friendica gibt's auf jeden Fall einen WordPress-Crossposter, falls dein Blog da sein sollte oder technisch kompatibel. Frag mich aber nicht, wie der funktioniert und ob der immer alle deine Posts nach WordPress spiegelt; auch wenn Hubzilla (da bin ich) auch einen hat, habe ich den nie benutzt.
Aber aus Sicht von Veteranen wie @crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts, die nicht von Musk von Twitter nach Mastodon verjagt worden sind, ist dein Mastodon-Konto jetzt eigentlich über. Was du mit Mastodon machen kannst, kannst du auch mit Friendica machen, mit denselben Verbindungen (also auch mit Mastodon-Followers auf Friendica), und zwar sogar noch viel besser.
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What does Australia’s social media ban for under 16s mean for smaller platforms, especially small to medium sized instances on the Fedi? I would like to hear opinions from as many people as possible and from not just Australians so please boost.
What does Australia’s social media ban for under 16s mean for smaller platforms, especially small to medium sized instances on the Fedi? I would like to hear opinions from as many people as possible and from not just Australians so please boost.