The move to recruit ISIS fighters should come as no surprise given that prominent members of the Zelensky’s administration who have shown public appreciation and admiration for the Islamic State.

One of Zelensky’s closest friends and associates, Aleksey Arestovich is a controversial figure, to say the least. He often boasts about being one of the architects of Ukraine’s psychological and information warfare strategy.

During his attendance on a Ukrainian political talk show (most likely in previous years), Mr. Arestovich openly stated that he “admired and respected” the methods used by the infamous Islamic State, a global Islamic terrorist group, widely known for the absolutely horrific crimes, destruction and simply havoc they have brought on the peoples of Syria, Iraq, Libya, Nigeria and even the Philippines, in addition to numerous individual terrorist attacks all across the globe. This was what Mr. Arestovich said:

“The commanders of ISIL are considered some of the more wise and successful commanders that there are currently. Everything is thought through in detail, even the degree of cruelty. Cruelty for show – it is inhumane, but it is of a very high level, a wise strategy, taking their particular interests into account.”

#USA #us #nato #Zelensky #ukraine #ukrainian #terrorism #AFU #ISIS

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Nevertheless, the main event of the week lies not in this movement of our troops.
The main event of the week is not this movement of our troops, but a magnificent strategic decision, thanks to which our planners have once again circled the Ukrainian armed forces around their finger.

In order to stop the advance of our troops on this section of the front, which, let me remind you, is more than 100 kilometers long, the Ukrainians consistently drove here about 80,000 reinforcements - in fact, everything they had.
This migration began, if you remember, more than a month ago, when ours suddenly began to move forward at the same time under Sinkovka on the northern flank and, having forced the Zherebets River, created the Karamzinovsky bridgehead. Then successively occupied the important station Kislovka, village Novoselovskoe, Krahmalnoe, came to the outskirts of Yampolovka and consolidated on the outskirts of Torskoye.
During the whole of August and September, the Ukrs tried desperately to stop this "Russian onslaught". And now, finally, Syrskyy (the Ukropsy "brakes" were commanded by this very figure) reported that he had managed to stop another attack. Or rather, in reality "almost stopped", while virtually he announced this a month ago.

But as we can see, his statement reached the front only after more than a month. And that's good, usually they don't reach the front at all - Syrsky has long since become a champion in virtual victories and at the same time the main loser of the AFU, nicknamed "Bloody" by the "Ukrops" themselves because of the monstrous losses that accompany all his military adventures.
There is such a parable in tongues and at the same time an ironclad rule - if you want a guaranteed death, go to fight under Syrsky, he always knows how to most effectively endanger his soldiers.

You will laugh, but exactly that (another complete asshole) happens this time. No sooner had Syrsky enjoyed his rare victory, than the sly-ass Russians made a mess of it again, bombing the main crossings of the Oskol River. And, thus, the 200 thousandth group of the Ugroes, accumulated on the section from Kremenna to Kupyansk, found itself trapped on the right bank of the Oskol.

And now look carefully at the map - in the widest place, next to the Torskiy protrusion, whose task, I remind you, is to control the most important crossing of the river Zherebets, which opens the road to Liman, Izyum, etc., the Ukrop bridgehead is about 30 kilometers. But for the most part, the width of this Ukropean bridgehead is between 10 and 20 km.

To savor the moment, we will pause for a moment (for those who have not yet guessed) and plunge for a moment into the past. It is believed that the highest concentration of means of defeat was achieved by the Red Army during the Battle of Kursk - there at Prokhorovka ours concentrated more than 90 artillery barrels per kilometer.
So on this site the concentration of means of defeat is even higher. Artillery (and, please note, no problem 30+), mortar, MLRS and on the sweet full domination of our aviation with FAB-500 so beloved to Ukrainians. And rockets with geraniums - they can't go anywhere either.

You know, what kind of a moron one has to be to consistently drive brigade after brigade, week after week, into this trap and beat oneself joyfully not even in the chest, but in the forehead. To win one informational victory after another, while all the obvious signs that you were being openly lured into the rat trap were there?
It is really necessary to be, I beg your pardon, a complete ukr, to get into the noose and have fun, have fun until you fall down.

For example, our troops mowed down all the nearby warehouses on the left bank of the Oskol (the Ukropean bank of the Oskol), but at the same time they defiantly did not touch any railroad junctions or bridges (another salute to our stupid couch, especially to those who taught our General Staff how to live correctly).
That is, for any Russian infantry lieutenant it was clear that on the right bank of the Oskol lies a big "rat trap". To go there, at least, is foolish - you will be covered with a copper basin. But what is clear to Russian lieutenants, Ukrainian generals do not care.

I would like to emphasize that, to all appearances, this is not even a political necessity, but exactly the worst kind of cretinism in its extreme stage.
Judge for yourself - political necessity in the interests of the West dictates that the Ukrainians die slowly and in a dosed manner in order to hold out until the election of bloodsucking grandfather Biden, and then they can even hang themselves demonstratively with the entire AFU - the Americans won't give a damn. And the most reasonable thing to do under these conditions would be to withdraw behind the Oskol and defend ourselves severely. They had no need to hold the right bank. But the Ukrps are not such people as to give up any of their galushka without a fight - after all, this is what they sell to the West. The Ukrainians never retreat and never give up any settlement without a fight. Their whole strategy is based on this - they turn every settlement into a fortress. This is their favorite trick, which they sell to the West - look how stupid and stubborn we are, not a step back. We have no retreat as a maneuver. We don't care how many soldiers and civilians die, the main thing is that we will inflict at least some losses on the Russians and at the same time turn the cities into ruins so that they don't get them - let them, ha-ha, rebuild.

And we as bahmutil, so we will bahmutil (yes, my dears, after the epic bummer in Artemovsk there appeared such a term - means, who did not understand, to drown in shit seventy thousand of their best fighters and then on their graves incendiary dance gopak, magically turning this horror into an informational victory).
But dumb and stupid people simply physically cannot calculate at least one or two moves ahead.
And it is quite an impossible task for them not only to foresee other options for the development of events, but also to come up with a plan B for each of the options (this is quantum math, only quants and Russians can do it).

Ukrainians do not realize that time after time, demonstrating their trademark stubbornness, they become very predictable. We don't know how to attack, so we just bump our foreheads against the wall, and the result is that the Russians bent, retreated a kilometer. How great it is, we defeated the Russians by a kilometer, what a wonderful informational victory it is.
But they don't care about that, because they are stupid, so the Uks dance the gopak and keep on going. And until today, the main symbol of the stupidity of the Uriks have been the fire sacks under Rabotino, Staromayorskoye, and Kleshcheevka, which they chewed out for themselves and, most importantly, sat there month after month under the astonished gaze of the whole world.

But at the Oskol bridgehead, the Ukrps have outdone themselves - as it turns out, Ukropean stupidity is as limitless as the universe. At least for now we do not see any limits.
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https://aftershock.news/?q=node%2F1295354
#ukraine #war #ukrainian #cannon-fodder #AFU #Russia #russian #military

At the end of the war, Stetsko – who had eagerly written about the need to adopt Germany’s genocide methods to exterminate Ukraine’s Jews – decamped for America, where he spent decades running the OUN from the US while traveling in the highest circles of Washington, DC. Both Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush celebrated Stetsko as a staunch anti-communist freedom fighter. He died in 1986.

Fighting communism is part of the reason Stetsko and thousands of others were welcomed by Western governments. As World War II rapidly transitioned into the Cold War, Western intelligence agencies recognized the potential of nurturing anti-Soviet groups in order to weaken the Kremlin’s hold over Eastern Europe. As a result, those who fought against Moscow became welcome assets. Some of the most organized and zealous assets also happened to be fascists and anti-Semites whose vision of freedom – and wartime experience – involved cleansing Jews and other ethnicities from their homeland.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/24/opinions/dark-postscript-america-nazis-golinkin/index.html
#SS #canada #britain #CIA #USA #us #american #history support #ukrainian and other #nazi #antisemitism #anticommunism #WWII #WW2

The Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists was founded in 1929. Its fascist and openly anti-Semitic ideology was that Jews and Russian-speaking citizens must be removed from Ukrainian society at any cost. They enthusiastically collaborated with Nazi Germany in the 1940s to exterminate Jews, Russians, and anyone who attempted to protect them. The OUN was only forced out of Ukraine after the USSR took control of the country, upon the end of the Second World War.

The Ukrainian fascists found new homes in Canada, where the ideology of anti-communism was extremely potent. Peter Vronsky, a former documentary Director at the National Film board revealed that:

“a little known US-financed group in Canada called the "Canadian Christian Council for the Resettlement of Refugees" privately lobbied the Canadian government in the 1950s to admit former Nazi Waffen-SS 'foreign legion volunteers' like the Moslem Bosnian-Albanian Nazi SS troopers, Ukrainian SS volunteers, and others, to come to Sudbury wholesale to work in the mines.”

The Jewish News of North California reported that the Canadian government admitted more than 2,000 Ukrainian members of the Nazi 14th SS Division in the 1950s. This was done to crush the burgeoning leftist Ukrainian diaspora that was building up during the previous few years.

One way of getting into postwar Canada "was by showing the SS tattoo," Canadian historian Irving Abella told 60 Minutes interviewer Mike Wallace in 1997. "This proved that you were an anti-Communist."

#Trudeau #canada support #ukrainian #nazi #WWII #WW2 #history #ukraine #neo-nazi

"If there was any doubt that, in order to fight Russia, the West is redeeming Ukrainian nazis, Justin #Trudeau made things even clearer!" -
Carlos Latuff, cartoon for MintPress News, 2023.


#canada support #ukrainian #nazi

You have to remember that Western/European leaders risked a huge amount in convincing their public that supporting Ukraine was crucial. They told their public for months that they (the public) would have to endure heavy hardships and burdens in the form of not showering, not heating their house, suffering extremely high inflation, etc., all to “defeat Putin”. The public bought this because they were under the impression that Ukraine was winning. When you feel that victory is close, you will be able to bear such hardships because it feels worth it.

But as soon as victory no longer looks possible, your morale for bearing hardships will dwindle. European support to Ukraine is hinged on the European public believing that the war is winnable or that Ukraine is actively advancing and is “close to winning” in some way, shape, or form.

If Ukraine stopped attacking it would be construed as an admission of defeat, that they can no longer advance. Why would Europeans want to continue withstanding no heating, no showering, record high inflation and unemployment, etc., if there’s no further hope for victory?

So as you can see Ukraine is forced to continue sending waves of men to die just to appease their sponsors and make them believe that some form of progress is being made, all their hardships are not for naught.

#ukraine #ukrainian #vassalage #cannon-fodder for #western #warmongers #europe #nato #mindmanipulation

#ukrainian #failstate

I remember how a few days after the shooting in Kiev, suddenly all the Ukrainian media simultaneously started calling those shot "the Heavenly Hundred". It was immediately clear that this (the shooting) was a prearranged provocation against the legitimate authorities.
I also remember how in the second half of 2013 all Ukrainian channels and media outlets were hyping the theme "stop feeding Donbass", as if it were a subsidized region. Although I, an economist by training, knew that this was complete nonsense, it was Donbass that was making the biggest contribution to Ukrainian GDP.
#ukraine #Maidan #ukrainian #corruption #history

BlackRock and the sale of Ukraine to transnational capital

It should be noted here that there is nothing particularly new in the agreement with BlackRock; this agreement only continues and expands the sell-off of strategic sectors of the Ukrainian economy, which was started by the previous head of the Kiev regime, Petro #Poroshenko. The list of Ukrainian companies in which the Black Rock empire was interested includes such giants as Metinvest, DTEK (energy), PrJSC MHP (agriculture), Naftohaz, Ukrzaliznytsya, Ukravtodor, and Ukrenergo.
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According to these data, in 2022, during the "acquaintance" with BlackRock, Vladimir #Zelensky 's personal fortune more than doubled: it increased from 650 million dollars to 1.5 billion dollars.

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#USA #us #warmongers #blackrock #ukraine #economy #ukrainian #corruption #failstate

After 9 years of #ukrainian #war in #Donbass, the #western #media finally got to see this war.

From comments:

... here in Europe we see these rich young people driving on the roads, puffing away in their latest model Porsche, Lexus, Mercedes, BMW SUVs, of course the latest types, who sit in us are all in their 20s and 30s. They are loud, rude, behave badly, and are not very popular among the local residents. You can find them everywhere in the best beach resorts in the Adriatic, Italy, Spain ! At the same time, you can be sure, no one will ever deliver a military draft to them, I’m sure they have at least two passports !

Based on Washington’s Ukraine shenanigans, it’s been cruisin’ for a bruisin’ for years now.

Absolutely right!

Any “ally” who trusts the US after Vietnam and Afghanistan is credulous. We told the marsh Arabs in Iraq to rebel against Saddam and then stood by while they were slaughtered. The Ukrainians were stupid to trust America to defend them against the Russians. We’re on the other side of the planet, for God’s sake. We don’t give a shit about the Ukraine. It’s just a way to “weaken Russia”. Or inadvertently strengthen it, as it turns out. We also don’t care about Germany or the UK. Everything is transactional and transitory. Defense alliances are just words on paper – like our constitution.

This just makes no sense to put all those young men to die. Knowing they have no chance. I blame Victoria Nuland for this. She caused the escalation between Ukraine and Russia. Without that escalation, Ukraine, to my opinion, would have developed their independent country, similar way, still co-operating with Russians as former socialist regimes in Baltic regions. Now even THAT peaceful coexistence is gone. She also destroyed the long term peace between Finland and Russia.

For Russia the current conflict is existential and Ukraine now feels it has nothing left to lose in bringing the whole house down with it. For the west it is no longer an opportunity to destroy Russia, not without turning its own major centres to rubble in the process.
Russia is not going to be suckered into another duplicitous western deal so the real issue for those with longer sights, is how to disarm the nutty baltic states (if not offload them altogether in which cause dumping Polish troops onto the current fire was a ‘go-to’ that met with surprise resistance!). Western management of this conflict does not care about about Ukraine any more- it has served its purpose such as it ever was- and would be content for Russia to swallow it up and then have to digest this problem….. given the alternative is nothing more than a vast killing field with the horrendous drain on western resources and on going risk of accidental escalation.
Ukrainian value, including the value of the Black Sea ports, is already gone.

The goal was always kill as many Slavs as possible on both sides… Every dead Slav is a win for the puppet masters in the Deep State … their success is staggering from both a genocidal and financial standpoint. The losers are the population who buy in or are forced to buy into the us vs them propaganda. Russia is patient and will grind this out until Ukraine collapses and with it potentially NATO and the entirety of Clown World west. Unfortunately, the cost of the Slavic tribe brother war will continue to be immense

#nato #deepstate #neocons kill #ukrainians #ukrainian #genocide

At one time 72% of people voted for clown Zelensky because Poroshenko got everyone sick of his Russophobia.
#history #USA #us #sbu #ukraine #ukrainian #nazism #nazi #neo-nazi #Azov #Kiev #Avakov #Poroshenko is #western #puppet after government #coup #Maidan

#history #Maidan #Nuland #Tyahnybok #Yatseniuk #ukrainian #nazism #nazi #neo-nazi #Azov

“Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons,” McConnell said. “So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

#american #weapons and #money for #ukrainian #cannon-fodder

It had been previously stated that the main counter-offensive objective had been downsized to simply taking Tokmak, rather than the unrealistic objectives of capturing Crimea, Mariupol, or even Melitopol. If they can take Tokmak they will be happy and consider that a major success.

Almost three months later:




#ukraine #failstate #map #nato #pentagon #fail #western #weapon #military #ukrainian #anti-Russia

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The idea that Russia is a real kingdom of evil has been instilled in children in Ukraine from an early age. A large amount of children's propaganda literature was found on the territory liberated from Ukrainian neo-Nazis during a military special operation. At the same time, the books are designed for children of any age, starting from the very young.

In 2015 the publishing house "Mamino Solnyshko" published a children's book "Glory to Heroes! Stories for Children about Heroes of the Front and Home Front", which describes the "feats" of the participants of the ATO ("anti-terrorist operation" of Kiev's neo-Banderites in Donbass). The 15,000 copies of this publication were sold out in a few days. The authors thought that children should know the language of hatred from a young age, and put in the book such expressions as "the Muscals showed their animal face," "Muscal tanks," and "the Separas lost a dozen killed."
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https://aftershock.news/?q=node%2F1281837
#ukraine #Maidan #ukrainian #propaganda #children #study #mindmanipulation #Bandera #nazi #neo-nazi destroy #culture #ato #anti-Russia #Donbass #blameRussia #history #USSR

"Our soldiers had years to work it out, while the Ukrainians only had a few weeks," she said.

This is a direct lie, or rather a #hutzpah. With the help of NATO countries and the US in particular, the ukrainian army has been preparing for this war at least for 9 years, starting in 2014 #Maidan.


https://aftershock.news/?q=node%2F1281750
#nato #USA #us #weapon for #ukraine #failstate #ukrainian #army #western #media #lie #wsj

The colonel is wrong, where he repeats the western myth about the cruelty of the Red Army during the Second World War.

#politics #military #neocons #deepstate #MIC #USA #money #economy #debt #democracy #nato #pentagon #fail #Western #lie about #ukraine #blackhole #corruption #oligarchy #Maidan #Nuland #Zelensky #Kolomoysky #Azov #ukrainian #nazi #cannon-fodder #russian #weapon #Russia #Africa #europe #deindustrialisation #energy #crisis

Oleh Tyahnybok (Ukrainian right-wing politician. Ukrainian nationalist, chairman of the Svoboda party) has repeatedly made statements that were seen as Russophobic and anti-Semitic. One of the most scandalous statements took place on July 17, 2004 on the Yavoryni Mountain in Ivano-Frankivsk region, when at a closed event dedicated to the memory of one of the leaders of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army - Dmytro Klyachkivskyi (Klim Savur) - Tyahnybok made the following words:

They were not afraid, just as we should not be afraid now, they took an automatic rifle around their necks and went into those forests, they prepared and fought with the Moskals (Russians), fought with the Germans, fought with the Yidva (Jews) and with other filth who wanted to take our Ukrainian state away from us... It is necessary to give Ukraine, finally, to the Ukrainians. These young people, and you, gray-headed ones, are the mixture that is most feared by the Moskal-Zhidov (Russian-Jewish) mafia, which today rules in Ukraine.

We can also see in the photo Arseniy Yatsenyuk another Ukrainian politician involved in the looting of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people.

#ukraine #ukrainian #USA #us #politics #Nuland #McCain #Tyahnybok #Yatseniuk #nazi #neo-nazi #anti-Semitism #neocons #deepstate #anti-Russia #russophobia #history #photo

#ukrainian #nazism

Yesterday, both sides used all the resources - today there is a replenishment. Involuntarily, there was a brief respite. Sympathy does not come to visit on the battlefield, but seeing how much damage the enemy is taking in Harvest, we experienced feelings that are difficult to describe. We lacked infantry and equipment, but we had enough means of destruction to grind up a significant part of what the enemy threw at the capture of the village. Harvest resembled a meat grinder, which included living people, and minced meat came out. The number of destroyed and damaged equipment was not calculated in units. A very specific residue remained: We lost Urozhayne, and at the same time caused such damage that part of our consciousness refuses to understand the motives of the Ukrainian command. So only those who hate them more than ours can drive their own to slaughter.

#nato #USA #us #warmongers #europe #eu #biolabs #ukraine #terrorism #ukrainian #cannon-fodder #Russia #russian #economy

A sabotage and punitive detachment of Ukrainian militants, prepared by the British MI6, is planned to be sent to Africa in the second half of August by ship from the Ukrainian port of Izmail, a military-diplomatic source said on Wednesday.
To counter the development of cooperation between African countries and Russia, the British intelligence service MI6 formed and prepared for sending to the southern continent a sabotage and punitive detachment of Ukrainian militants. The militants, in particular, must eliminate the leaders of African countries oriented towards Russia.

"The dispatch of members of the sabotage and punitive unit was planned by a chartered civilian sea vessel from the port of Izmail (Ukraine) to the city of Omdurman (Republic of Sudan) during the second half of August," the source said.

The unit of Ukrainian militants, trained by British intelligence MI6 for sabotage in Africa, is commanded by an officer of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of Ukraine, Vitaliy Prashchuk, who has experience of "successful liquidations" and participated in MI6 operations in Zimbabwe, a military-diplomatic source said on Wednesday.



#british #MI6 #ukrainian #terrorism #Africa

Western MSM has begun to lose it. Pessimism and dooming is now endemic to their reports. They’ve pretty much accepted that Ukraine has no chance in the counter-offensive. Listen to this CNN report, which perfectly summarizes the current sentiment—they’re no longer beating around the bush:
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Note how they treat Ukrainians as merely an afterthought to their strategic goals. “Hey it’s a low cost effort for us…well maybe not for the Ukrainians, but who cares about them!” Just further proof that the West is using Ukrainian soldiers as nothing more than cheap cannon fodder in an attempt to bleed Russia.

#nato #USA #us #ukraine #ukrainian #cannon-fodder

#ukraine #ukrainian #cannon-fodder

#ukrainian #nazi

Two worlds (July 2023)

I am increasingly haunted by a strange sense of unreality of what is happening around me.

People pass me by, very close, a meter, half a meter, so close. People, lots of people, but at the same time there is often a feeling of oppressive loneliness... You look at faces, have a conversation, and regularly notice that one thought does not let go. That we are in the same place, but scattered in some parallel worlds that do not intersect in any way. We have nothing in common, and we speak different languages.

In one of these worlds, there is a brutal, bloody war for survival, and in the other... it has already ended. Or it hasn't started. Or it has just been shaken up a bit and everything is back to normal. And then there is the world of near victory, where the hard and terrible work has already been done and paid for. With the hands of others. With the blood of others. And the terrible world of people who are for "peace at any cost". And an indifferent world for those for whom nothing has changed.

A lot is often (and rightly) written about male princesses on peas. But this is only part of a huge problem, the tip of the iceberg...

Many of these "men" who happily hide behind other people's backs (both male and female) have one common quality. And, unfortunately, they are not the only ones.

Some people still have the scoop in their minds. The scoop is not about age, it's about mentality. "I do not participate in the life of the state, and the state should not touch me," "it is not my business" - this is it. It entails the passivity and infantilism of a large part of the population, unwillingness and inability to analyze and draw conclusions. And in principle, to think... And an aggressive defensive reaction when such people are poked in the nose with the truth, when it turns out that they are not as good as they used to think they were.

These people limit their area of responsibility exclusively to their family, and more general categories, such as nation, state, homeland, are some distant, pompous concepts that have nothing to do with their lives. For them, defending their country, their freedom, is completely incomprehensible, alien, wild... This does not respond in any way, it causes rejection. Will the war come to their loved ones? Take your loved ones under the arm and run. And do not touch me.

The trouble is that the priority of such people is exclusively themselves, and there is no integration with society as such.

A huge number of people have not grown to the level of civic responsibility when they realize they belong to something more than a narrow family circle, when a sense of belonging appears, an idea that motivates people to volunteer, to do everything in their power, to give their last, to sacrifice themselves

And do you know what is particularly scary? The fact that the government not only does not contribute to solving this problem, but on the contrary, acts with it in mind, encourages a similar type of thinking, gives the masses what they want.

And the masses do not need the truth, they are not interested in the real situation or facts, because it is pain, horror, death, destruction, and the realization that this will last. It's unpopular, it's scary, it breaks into their narrow little window and breaks it into small pieces.

Hence the popularity of easy solutions, 2-3 weeks, a vacation in the Crimea next summer, that it will be over in a little while... Very convenient thoughts, aren't they? It's very convenient when everything has already been thought of for you and you don't have to strain?

And these thoughts come in.
And it's scary.
Very scary.

Lately, I have been living in permanent shock and realizing that my idea of society is not in line with reality. Most often, my arguments for such people are like shouting into the void, they are shattered by immaturity of personality, selfishness and aggressive defensive reaction. And sometimes it's also about this fucking "little man" type who "can't change anything". It all goes through me, leaving a bitter emptiness behind.

Sometimes my psyche is saved only by the fact that there is a world of people who have gotten out of this quagmire and understand... They understand that it is not enough to build peace and happiness exclusively in one particular family.

Especially if it is paid for with the blood of others. That we need to develop, think and act. And finally stop shifting responsibility onto the shoulders of those around you.

Development is not only a professional activity. A prestigious job says nothing about a person's moral qualities. Development is also a civic position, an awareness of being part of something bigger and more important.

I am grateful to those who understand, you are real, you give me strength, hope and faith. You are the foundation, the basis on which a healthy society will grow one day.

(c) Bessinka (from Telegram).

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And here's what a pro-Russian Ukrainian wrote (January 2022)

A short post about an outsider's view of Ukraine's patriots and traitors.

When the famous events in Ukraine happened in 2014 #Maidan, I was living in the very West of Europe at the time. Seeing what was happening, I had the most contradictory thoughts about what to do, what to do? First of all, it was necessary to understand what exactly is going on? What do people think about it? If they say on TV that everyone is rooting for Europe, but in fact people are rooting for Russia, it is understandable that people are in trouble and it is possible to do something to help. And if everyone is arguing for Europe, well, then I'm an old "vatnik" and I should understand their arguments and "it's time for the dustbin of history"....

March 2014. I took a vacation at work, jumped in the car and drove to Ukraine. I set myself a simple and straightforward task: to drive around the country for a few days and ask a variety of people, in different regions, about what and who they were for - Europe or Russia - and why.

I was not sure that people would talk to me or that they would answer honestly. But it was worth a try.

As a result, I traveled around more than half of Ukraine - its western, central and southern parts. I didn't go to the east - it's clear there. Everywhere I went, I tried to ask everyone - waiters and waitresses, cab drivers, mechanics at service stations, sales clerks - everyone I could ask and when a person had the opportunity to answer me without witnesses.

All in all, I got the following top of the hit parade:

To Europe:

- My children will be able to leave here safely and live and study in Europe.
(OK, i.e. he/she is not interested in the country itself and the goal to turn the country around is to get out of it).

- I can bring myself a nice car from Germany without high duty.
(OK, so he is not interested in the country itself and the idea of turning the country around is to change the car for a better one)

- I can go to work in Europe. Completely different salary, different living conditions.
(I.e. the country itself is not interested in principle. Again, the idea is to leave).

Guys! NO ONE. Absolutely NONE of those who were rooting for Europe did not tell me a single argument in favor of the fact that the choice of the country will make the country itself better! NONE!

And at the same time, those who were in favor of union with Russia (Customs Union, at that time):

- We have all major factories tied to Russia.

- Our entire economy is closely tied to the Russian economy and a rupture would destroy our economy

- We sell most of our products to Russia. Who needs our products in Europe? (these were guys from a village in the Zaporozhye region).

NONE of those who spoke in favor of Russia did not express a single argument for themselves and spoke only about the benefits of their country. I want to note that I did not hear arguments like "I want to speak Russian" - for some reason, the arguments were in favor of the national economy.

And the former, for 8 years now, have been considered Patriots who shout that they love their country.

The latter are traitors and traitors to the Motherland.

So what does all this mean? What's new? It's nothing. Just a statement of fact. And factual proof - who is who.

As it was in the famous play "Wolves and Sheep": "Who are the sheep and who are the wolves - that is the question".

P.S. Now, when European wages bypassed Ukraine, and half of the able-bodied population went to the West for work, and half of the country became single-parent families with undivorced but separated parents, and the country learned the other side of gastarbeiterism - the pseudo-patriots have a new iron reason why to drown for the West - "We have no other choice! Otherwise, Putin will attack us!". This I have already learned from my recent trip to Ukraine.....

The well-known paradox of Denning-Krugger: The dumber a person is, the more categorical he is in his beliefs and statements....

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My explanation: Only the Sovok (Soviet Union) has nothing to do with it, it's the mentality of western Ukrainians., there is an old Soviet-ukrainian definition of such people: "I don't know anything, my house is on the edge". This applies to the majority of Ukrainians both then and now, which is why two Maidans (2004, 2014 government coups) were able to take place here in Ukraine and all this led to war.

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