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Guten Morgen beste Timeline im #streams Netzwerk.

Meine Augen wollen noch nicht ganz aufgehen, ich war gestern bis 21.15 Uhr beim Vereinskollegen um an meinen Bogen weiter zu bauen.

Ich sag mal so, es wird. Im Laufe des Tages mache ich dazu mal noch einen extra post fertig, mit Bilder drin.

Jetzt erst mal Teen wecken und dann langsam fertig machen für auf Arbeit


ähm Frage?

Warum ist dort bei den Vergleichen der Netzwerken, eine einzelne Fediverse Software aufgeführt und nicht das ganze Netzwerk?
Was tauchen #GoToSocial#Misskey#Streams#Friendica#Foundkey#Glitch#Sharkey#Pixelfed als Software nicht auch mit auf?

Fragen über Fragen die euch als Kommunikationsagentur fragwürdig machen, wenn ihr Software nicht von Netzwerrk unterscheiden könnt.

@kuketz@social.tchncs.de@creativecommons@mastodon.social


Soll ich unbedingt auf alle Dienste Rücksicht nehmen?


Man muss es ja beim Posten im Fediverse nicht übertreiben mit Formatierungen und Schnickschnack. Aber ein paar grundlegende Beitragsformatierungen gehören für mich - vor allem bei längeren Beiträgen (damit meine ich nicht 501 Zeichen, sondern mindestens 1.500+) - einfach dazu, weil sie auch die Lesbarkeit verbessern.

Und ich klatsche gerne auch kleine Banner unter manche Postings (je nach Kontext)... z.B. das Join Hubzilla Banner (mit Link zur deutschsprachigen Hubzilla-Einstiegs-Seite) oder unter die Hubzilla-Häppchen das Hubzilla-Häppchen Banner, welches per Link zu allen Häppchen-Beiträgen führt.

Friendica, Hubzilla und (streams) zeigen das auch ganz korrekt an. Die meisten anderen Dienst nicht ganz so schön. Da ist die Grafik (meist groß) vorhanden, darüber steht dann aber immerhin der Link zum jeweiligen Ziel. Nur Mastodon versaut es komplett. Da ist auch nur die zu große Grafik zu sehen... aber der Link wird unterschlagen.

Aber soll ich wegen dieser Unzulänglichkeiten z.B. auf die Banner verzichten? NÖ! Und auf Bilder? Auch NÖ!

Wer es anständig dargestellt haben möchte, muss dann halt Hubzilla, Friendica, Streams (und in Zukunft womöglich Forte) nutzen. Deshalb untendrunter auch wieder das Join-Hubzilla Banner... und für alle Mastodon-Nutzer: Der Link dahinter ist 😉

#fediverse #hubzilla #friendica #streams #mastodon

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(streams) and muscle memory


Caution, Hubzilla users: (streams) may cause irritation.

First of all: When you open an unread message, (streams) counts down five seconds before removing the message from the unread list. You will click it again.

Worse yet: On (streams), you'll look for the settings in the channel menu, but they're in the app menu. And when you've used (streams) for a while, and you return to Hubzilla, you'll look for the settings in the app menu until you remember that they're in the channel menu.

#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #MuscleMemory


How the Nomads handle quote-post permission


Here's another thing that you may not know about Hubzilla and (streams) yet: Not only do they have quote-posts, but they also have pretty effective anti-quote-post defences.

Hubzilla



Hubzilla has a permission setting named "Can source/mirror my public posts in derived channels". It has been there since 2012 when Hubzilla was still a fledgling project named Red, that's 13 years now.

Whether someone may quote-post ("share") your public posts depends on the setting in the channel role. If your channel is set to "Public", I think everyone is allowed to share your public posts. If it's set to "Private", you can (and have to) grant that permission to your connections individually by contact role. Those whom you aren't connected to are not allowed to share any of your posts.

The "Custom" channel role lets you choose between granting that permission, one out of 17 permissions, to:
  • everyone in the Fediverse
  • everyone on Hubzilla and (streams)
  • everyone on your home hub
  • unconfirmed and confirmed connections
  • confirmed connections
  • only those whom you individually grant that permission
  • nobody but you


(streams)



(streams) goes even further. As far as I know, it doesn't give you the option to let everyone quote-post any of your posts in the first place. Not only are you always opted out to the point that only you yourself may quote-post your posts, but you can't even fully opt in.

No matter if your channel type is "Social - Public" or "Social - Restricted", the only ones who are allowed to quote-post even only your public posts are those of your connections who get the permission from you. Unlike on Hubzilla, however, you don't have to fumble around with permission roles, although you may do so to speed things up. You've also got a dedicated switch for this permission on each connection labelled "Grant permission to republish/mirror your posts".

The effect



This permission has its strongest effect on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte: If one of their users is not allowed to share one of your posts, the Share button is missing altogether. And there's no real way around the Share button.

In fact, the Repeat button is missing, too. If you aren't allowed to quote-post it, you aren't allowed to boost it either. This permission is not about how you may forward someone's content, but whether you may forward it.

Unfortunately, Fediverse users probably everywhere else are not affected by this permission. Users of Pleroma, Misskey and their respective forks can still quote-post you to their heart's content. And I've got my doubts that Mastodon will understand this permission when it introduces quote-posts.

Then again, it's highly likely that Mastodon's quote-post opt-in or opt-out won't work outside of Mastodon either.

Privacy as an extra line of defence



If you really want to be safe, you've additionally got the option to not post in public. Any post that isn't public can neither be repeated (boosted) nor shared (quote-posted).

Both Hubzilla and (streams) give you the option to send a post to the members of a privacy group/access list (think Mastodon list on coke and 'roids), to a specific group/forum or to any individual selection of connections of yours. (streams) also has Mastodon's option to send a post to all your connections; Hubzilla can emulate that with a privacy group with all your connections in it.

Okay, your post will lose a whole lot of reach. But this is a trick that even Mastodon understands in a certain way: If a post from Hubzilla or (streams) has a restricted audience, Mastodon takes it for a PM. And you can't boost PMs, can you?

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Permissions


@Thomas Richtig, mein Kanal für Fediverse-Memes ist ein Super-Insider-Geheimprojekt auf (streams).

Ich bin auch in einer echten "geheimen VIP-Lounge" auf (streams), wo ActivityPub abgeschaltet ist, damit keine Mastodon-Nutzer reinkommen. Da haben nur (streams)- und Hubzilla-Nutzer Zutritt.

#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)


@Christian Take a look at Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) in comparison with Mastodon.

Friendica is the oldest one, the biggest one, the most well-known one, the one that's the easiest to get into and the only one with dedicated (Android) mobile apps.

Hubzilla is the second-oldest one and easily the most powerful one, but also the one that's the hardest to get into.

(streams) is the newest and most advanced one, but also next to impossible to find for those who are Googling it or looking for public instances to test it (it only has two).

All three are very different from Mastodon (see the tables behind the link at the top of this comment).

Self-hosting seems fairly easy. All three are built in PHP and don't require much more than a LAMP stack. Also, all three can be installed via YunoHost.

As for diaspora*, forget it. All recommendations for diaspora* come from Mastodon users who only know it from hearsay from other Mastodon users who only know it from hearsay. In reality, it's slowly dying, and even big and important pods with lots of user accounts are shutting down. Also, it doesn't support ActivityPub, it can't connect to Mastodon, and it never will. That's a fully intentional design decision with very good reasoning behind it.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #diaspora* #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)


#NeuHier

Tatsächlich ist die Überschrift ungenau. Denn ich bin lange nicht mehr „neu“ im Fediverse. Sechs bis sieben Jahre treibe ich mich schon darin herum. Habe eine Hubzilla- und eine Streams-Instanz betrieben (nur für mich allein), war auf Mastodonten.de, bis dass der Admin (mein Freund) dort den Stecker gezogen hat, und heute habe ich (auch) ein Konto auf Mastodon.social dem Dickschiff unter den Servern im Fediverse… (615 Wörter, 3 Minuten Lesezeit.)


@Georgiana Brummell
What are the differences between Diaspora, Pleroma, Hubzilla, Hometown, and Glitch? How do they compare to Friendica as far as features?
As for Hubzilla vs Friendica, I've made a series of tables that compare Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams). I've made them for those who are looking for a Facebook alternative in the Fediverse, but who only know Mastodon first-hand and Friendica from hearsay. But these tables are useless for blind or visually-impaired users, and I can't change that because it's in the nature of tables. Also, I don't have all data for Friendica yet. (In case someone sighted comes across this comment and wants to see the tables: Here they are).

So I'll try to do a Hubzilla vs Friendica comparison here. Hold on and take some time, for this will be very, very, very long. 42 lines of comparison with over 10,000 characters.

Friendica was created by Mike Macgirvin in 2010.
Hubzilla started out as a Friendica fork by Mike Macgirvin himself in 2012, originally named Red (from spanish la red = the network), then renamed Red Matrix. It was repositioned, reworked, massively extended beyond Friendica's features and renamed Hubzilla in 2015.

Friendica has native Android apps, a closed beta native iOS app and support for Mastodon apps, even though Mastodon apps only cover 20% of Friendica's features at most. Hubzilla doesn't have any mobile apps, at least none for iOS, none in the Google Play Store, none that could be installed on a new Android device and none with a fully native mobile user interface.

Hubzilla also also doesn't support Mastodon apps and never will. That's mainly because a Mastodon app can't cover over 90% of Hubzilla's features, including features which you need all the time such as file upload, image embedding, handling of connections and permission controls, simply because Mastodon doesn't have these features. Hubzilla would require its very own apps, and due to Hubzilla's immense complexity and wealth of features, a fully-featured, dedicated Hubzilla app would be absolutely gargantuan and just as complex as Hubzilla itself.

On Friendica, ActivityPub federation is available from the get-go. On Hubzilla, ActivityPub federation is optional, and on newly-created channels, it is off by default.

Friendica can integrate Bluesky and Tumblr accounts. Hubzilla can't.

On Friendica, your account is your identity. Your identity is firmly tied to your account. On hubzilla, your identity is independent from your account. It resides in a container called a "channel", of which you can have multiple, fully independent ones on the same account. This also allows you to switch back and forth between channels or identities without logging out and back in.

Friendica has limited capabilities of moving your identity to another instance. Hubzilla has nomadic identity. For one, this makes it possible to relocate an entire channel with all posts, all comments, all private messages, all connections, nearly all settings, all files in your file space etc. etc. to another instance. Besides, it makes it possible to clone a channel to one or multiple other instances. This gives you live, hot, real-time, bidirectional backups of your channel, and you can log into and use any of them. That way, your channel is much more resilient against instance shutdown.

If you delete a Hubzilla channel, you cannot create a channel with the same short name on the same Hubzilla hub unless the admin fully deletes your channel from the database.

If you delete a clone of a Hubzilla channel, you cannot clone the same channel back to the same hub unless the admin fully deletes your channel from the database.

Friendica has client-side support for OpenWebAuth magic single sign-on. Hubzilla has full support. This means that Friendica logins are recognised by instances with full OpenWebAuth support, but Friendica itself doesn't recognise logins elsewhere. Hubzilla logins are recognised the same, and Hubzilla does recognise logins elsewhere.

Friendica has some basic permission control. On Hubzilla, it is much more advanced and fine-grained.

On Friendica, you can set your profile to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your profile to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.

On Friendica, you can set your list of connections to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your connections to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.

On Friendica, you can set your timeline to private; as far as I know, this happens along with setting your profile to private. On Hubzilla, you can give permission to see your stream to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself.

I don't know if Friendica can give specific permissions to specific connections. Hubzilla has so-called "contact roles". Each contact has a contact role that grants or denies 17 different permissions. Permissions granted channel-wide from the channel role are inherited by all contact roles. Two of these permissions are for your contacts to send you their posts and for your contacts to send you private messages.

On Hubzilla, you can keep both everyone and specific contacts from sending you repeats/boosts/reposts/renotes with a line of filter syntax in a filter blacklist.

On Hubzilla, you can send any of your posts as public, only to yourself, to all members of a privacy group (which is similar to a circle on Friendica), to whoever is assigned a certain non-default profile, to one specific group/forum or to a custom selection of contacts. You can also define your default post audience, either one of your privacy groups, or your posts are public by default.

Hubzilla has three levels of reply control. At channel level, you can give permission to reply to your posts to anybody on the internet, anybody in the Fediverse, anybody on Hubzilla or (streams), anybody on your hub, unapproved and approved connections, approved connections, only those you specifically allow by contact role or only yourself. In addition, you can choose to let comments in from those who are not permitted to comment on your posts, preview them and then manually decide whether or not you accept each comment.

Reply control at per-contact level means that you can use contact roles to grant or deny permission to reply to your comments to certain connections.

Reply control at per-post level is optional and off by default. It lets you disallow comments on individual posts of yours entirely.

Likewise, there is quote-post control at channel level and at per-contact level.

On Friendica, you can report posts to the admin. On Hubzilla, you can't. This feature is currently being discussed.

I don't know about Friendica, but Hubzilla has a channel-wide filter with a whitelist and a blacklist, and optionally, it has an individual filter for each connection with a whitelist and a blacklist.

Hubzilla allows regular expressions in filter lines, but only for normal keywords, not in lines with filter syntax.

Hubzilla's filter syntax can recognise posts, comments and private messages. This is of very limited usefulness, however: If you want to whitelist certain keywords for posts, but let all comments and all private messages through, you'd have to use filter syntax in a whitelist. But in whitelists, keyword lines are connected with "or" whereas filter syntax lines are connected with "and" which means that you cannot combine keywords with filter syntax. There is also filter syntax for keywords, but these lines are connected with "and" in whitelists, too, and each line can only contain one keyword with no regular expression.

On Friendica, summaries or Mastodon-style content warnings are created with a pair of BBcode tags, either [abstract][/abstract] or [abstract=apub][/abstract]. This works for posts, comments and private messages. Hubzilla has a dedicated summary field for posts, but none for comments. In theory, it also has the BBcode tag pair [summary][/summary], but in practice, it is broken.

Friendica optionally offers Markdown for text formatting in addition to BBcode. Hubzilla only offers BBcode.

Friendica doesn't have or support polls. Hubzilla has full support for basically unlimited polls.

Friendica calls reposting "sharing" and quote-posting "quoted sharing". Hubzilla calls reposting "repeating" and quote-posting "sharing".

On Hubzilla, you can optionally be notified when a stranger mentions you out of the blue outside any conversation on your stream.

On Friendica, you can make a group restricted or private. On Hubzilla, you can give a group or a forum privacy, too, but by choosing the "Custom" channel role instead of the "Community forum" channel role, and you have to adjust the level of privacy by hand. The advantage is that you have fine-grained control over what exactly you want to be private in your group or forum.

Private Friendica groups can be joined by users on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and probably also Forte. Private Hubzilla groups or forums can only be joined by users on Hubzilla, (streams) and maybe Forte.

Friendica has a central directory of users, groups etc., the Friendica Directory. Hubzilla doesn't have such a thing.

Friendica nodes have their own directories; I'm not sure if they only list Friendica accounts or accounts and channels of everything that uses ActivityPub, or if they even include diaspora* users. Hubzilla hubs have such directories, too, but they only list Hubzilla and (streams) channels because they can only list what uses the built-in and permanently activated Nomad protocol.

In your Hubzilla directory, you can hide channels that are flagged not safe for work.

Hubzilla has an option that gives those who are permitted to see a post the permission to also see any media embedded in the post, regardless of the permissions set for the respective media in your file space. This was introduced due to the wide-spread issue of people uploading images and setting them or the directores the images are in to private, then embedding them into public posts and the audience of the posts not seeing the images.

On Hubzilla, you can give guest access tokens to people whom you want to access certain files or directories in your file space.

The file space built into your Hubzilla channel can be accessed via WebDAV.

Hubzilla also has a built-in CalDAV calendar server which can use the event calendar as a simple frontend and an optional headless CardDAV addressbook server.

Hubzilla optionally has "articles", long-form text posts with the same full text formatting capabilities as normal posts, but which don't federate.

Hubzilla optionally has "cards", basically planning cards with the same features as articles plus a few extra features.

Hubzilla optionally has multiple wikis per channel with multiple pages per wiki. Wikis can be set up to use either BBcode or Markdown as their markup language with a few wiki-specific additions in both cases.

Hubzilla optionally has simple, static webpages which can be formatted with either BBcode, Markdown or plain HTML. Hubzilla's own official website hubzilla.org is a webpage on a Hubzilla channel.

I think that's about it.

As for diaspora*: Forget it. For one, it does not support ActivityPub, and it does not federate with most of the Fediverse. The diaspora* developers staunchly refuse to add any other protocols to diaspora*, especially ActivityPub. One has actually said that you don't implement ActivityPub, you implement Mastodon. And the diaspora* developers don't want to make themselves dependent on Mastodon.

Besides, diaspora* is withering away. Around December 29th, a number of major diaspora* pods shut down. According to one source, diaspora* lost over half its user accounts in three days. And the closure of diasp.org, one of the biggest pods, is scheduled for April 1st now.

Quote:
Are there any other networks I should know about?
End quote.

From the same creator as Friendica and Hubzilla, there is something he created in 2021 at the end of a long and somewhat complex line of forks. It is officially and intentionally nameless, brandless, not a project and released into the public domain. Colloquially, it is named (streams) in parentheses after the name of its code repository. You can find the latter with an extensive readme here. It is slimmed down in features from Hubzilla, and it doesn't offer nearly the connection and federation options of Friendica and Hubzilla. But it is easier to handle while still having a steeper learning curve than Friendica, and especially its permission system is both another bit powerful and significantly easier to use than Hubzilla's.

(streams) has no mobile apps and no compatibility with Mastodon apps either for the same reasons as why Hubzilla doesn't isn't compatible with Mastodon apps.

(streams) is included in my comparison tables, too. If you want me, I can rattle down another comparison with Friendica like the one with Hubzilla above.

In August, 2024, Mike made another fork based on (streams) named Forte. It's basically (streams), but with a name, with a brand identity, as a project, released under the MIT license and with no support for the Nomad protocol anymore. It does everything using only ActivityPub. This also means that it relies entirely on ActivityPub for nomadic identity. Since especially this is still highly experimental, Forte itself has not officially been released yet, it is not recommended as a reliable daily driver, nor does it have public, open-registration instances.

Quote:
Finally, will the interface of the page on Friendica change depending on my instance?
End quote.

As far as I know, different Friendica nodes have different default themes, especially now that the Facebook-like Bookface theme may be officially included into Friendica.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #diaspora* #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte


@Kai-Uwe Helmers
Was ist eurer Meinung nach neben Mastodon eine Alternative für Facebook?
#Friendica kommt Facebook vermutlich am nächsten:

  • Keine Begrenzung der Zeichenzahl
  • Beliebig viele Bilder
  • Textformatierung möglich
  • Termin/Veranstaltungskalender integriert
  • Es existieren Gruppen


Wenn man es komplexer haben möchte gibt es noch #Hubzilla und #Streams.
Noch etwas anderes: wäre es nicht gut ein nicht profitorientiertes Unternehmen oder eine Gesellschaft zu gründen, wo die Leute die sich um die entsprechende soziale Plattform kümmern auch gut leben können?
Es gibt mittlerweile Dienstleister die Fediverse-Dienste für wenig Geld hosten (z.B. kostet Friendica bei Weingärtner-IT 4€ pro Monat), da kann man sich auch eine eigene Instanz leisten.


#Facebook #FacebookAlternative #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #fediVerse

@utopiArte Friendica or, better yet, (streams) or Hubzilla.

Friendica has been around since 2010. It's the oldest surviving Fediverse project. It even predates diaspora* by several months. It was created with the very intent of having an alternative to Facebook that's better than Facebook.

Hubzilla was created in 2015 from a 2012 Friendica fork, all by Friendica's own creator. So it's older than Mastodon, too.

(streams) is from 2021, the most technologically advanced of the bunch. It was created by the same guy who also made Friendica, Hubzilla and everything in-between, and who still maintains it.

Just yesterday, I've published a comparison of all three with Mastodon.

There's also the (streams) fork Forte which is basically (streams) with a name, a brand identity and a license and without any support for the Nomad protocol, only using ActivityPub for everything. But I don't recommend it as long as it isn't officially declared stable.

"Unshittified, decentralized, and free" applies to all four. Friendica was relicensed by its new maintainers from the MIT license to the GNU Affero GPL in 2012. Hubzilla and Forte are still under the MIT license. And at least the core streams repository was intentionally released into the public domain.

CC: @Cory Doctorow @Rusty Shackleford

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte


@utopiArte Friendica or, better yet, (streams) or Hubzilla.

Friendica has been around since 2010. It's the oldest surviving Fediverse project. It even predates diaspora* by several months. It was created with the very intent of having an alternative to Facebook that's better than Facebook.

Hubzilla was created in 2015 from a 2012 Friendica fork, all by Friendica's own creator. So it's older than Mastodon, too.

(streams) is from 2021, the most technologically advanced of the bunch. It was created by the same guy who also made Friendica, Hubzilla and everything in-between, and who still maintains it.

Just yesterday, I've published a comparison of all three with Mastodon.

There's also the (streams) fork Forte which is basically (streams) with a name, a brand identity and a license and without any support for the Nomad protocol, only using ActivityPub for everything. But I don't recommend it as long as it isn't officially declared stable.

"Unshittified, decentralized, and free" applies to all four. Friendica was relicensed by its new maintainers from the MIT license to the GNU Affero GPL in 2012. Hubzilla and Forte are still under the MIT license. And at least the core streams repository was intentionally released into the public domain.

CC: @Cory Doctorow @Rusty Shackleford

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte


hier gab es ja sogar schon einen Artikel für die #Fediverse-Serie über #streams : https://gnulinux.ch/fediverse-serie-streams-das-geordnete-chaos-im-fedivers
von @derpepe

@tux @crossgolf_rebel @marcr


einfach mal rumfragen, ich habe bestimmt zwei #Streams user in meiner Timeline
Mir fallen nur die Namen nicht ein und in meinen followen zu suchen, wird Mühselig 😉
@hamiller_friendica@anonsys.net@tux@anonsys.net


Wenn ich mir den Funktionsumfang anschaue, geht das über die FB-Gruppen hinaus. Da wäre #streams tatsächlich die echte #Alternative und ist zufällig (😄) noch im #Fediverse. Da würde ich einen Account anmelden und dann kräftig bei den Followern Werbung machen. Wenn das nichts bringt, löschen kann man den Account immer noch.


@Sheila DeBonis I'm working on an extensive comparison table for
  • Mastodon
  • Friendica
  • Hubzilla (emerged from a fork of Friendica)
  • (streams) (fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of Hubzilla)

right now.

By the way, I'm on Hubzilla myself.

#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)


Mastodon vs Facebook alternatives


The first version of my comparison table for Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) is out as an article on this channel.

I've intentionally added Mastodon so that Mastodon users have a reference, and so that it's clear that Mastodon doesn't work too well as an alternative to Facebook.

#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Facebook #FacebookAlternative


@PaulaToThePeople A few additions:



#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Instances #FediverseInstances #Misskey #Friendica #Streams #(streams) #Mbin #PieFed


@Henning Uhle Eigentlich solltest du Friendica-Konten von jeder Mastodon-Instanz aus folgen können. Dafür wirst du nicht groß umziehen müssen, schon gar nicht nach Friendica.

Auch wenn Mastodon ein Twitter-Klon ist und Friendica eine Facebook-Alternative, kannst du trotzdem mit deinem Mastodon-Konto einfach einem Friendica-Konto folgen. Oder jedem anderen Konto auf jeder anderen Art von Server.

Falls dir das zu theoretisch ist, können wir das gerne mal in der Praxis durchspielen, damit du das direkt vor deinen Augen siehst, wie das passiert.

Ich will dafür jetzt nicht irgendjemanden auf Friendica mit reinziehen, also nehmen wir statt dessen meinen Hubzilla-Kanal. Ist dicht genug dran, denn Hubzilla fing mal an als Friendica-Fork von Friendicas eigenem Entwickler.

Jetzt sorgen wir mal zusammen dafür, wie du auf Mastodon mir auf Hubzilla folgst.

Kopier mal in deine Suche auf Mastodon folgendes rein:
@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Dann schieb mal die Suche an. Die sollte ein Ergebnis anzeigen, dem du folgen kannst. Auch wenn du es auf Mastodon siehst, ist es nicht auf Mastodon, sondern es ist mein Kanal auf Hubzilla.

Und dann folge dem mal.

Falls dich das noch nicht überzeugt, können wir das auch mit (streams) durchspielen. Das ist wieder vom selben Entwickler und noch ein paar Forks später, aber immer noch ziemlich nah an Friendica dran.

Weil ich weiß, daß du Memes magst, such dieses Mal nach dem hier:
@fedimemes_on_streams@streams.elsmussols.net
Dahinter verbirgt sich übrigens mein Fedimemes-Kanal.

Und versuch wieder, dem zu folgen.

Übrigens: Mit @pepecyb (Friendica) folgst du schon jemandem auf Friendica, und mit @Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝ folgst du demselben auf Hubzilla. Vielleicht hast du es einfach noch nicht gemerkt, weil das alles für dich auch nicht anders aussah als Mastodon. Aber guck dir mal beide jeweils an der Quelle an und sag mir: Sieht das wie Mastodon aus?

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